Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
New opening on Green Lanes - Class International
Does anyone know what's opening on Green Lanes where the old Class International food shop used to be?
Although work has been going on for some months, it seems to be ramping up now although it still isn't clear what the new business will be...
If anyone has any news, please share!
Thanks
Tags for Forum Posts: class international, fairline, planning enforcement
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Yes, a Turkish restaurant is being built, I'm told, by the owners of Gunaydin Restaurant in Edmonton. Planning permission has apparently been erroneously granted (under permitted development rights) - in an unusually rapid two-day turnaround. Erroneously, because this type of semi-automatic permission can only be granted to premises of 150 sq ft or less. The original planning applications, as they relate to a three-premises business, were turned down and permitted development rights granted for just one of the three premises in this triple shop premises. A couple of weeks ago I learned that permission was separately sought for the other two and grants were made within two days of the applications being received. Because this is being developed as a single restaurant, these grants are clearly outside the scope of what is allowed within the regulations. I'm told that it's being challenged, but in the strange world of Haringey Council who knows what the eventual outcome will be.
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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The eventual outcome will be Kebab.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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What!!!!! Retail to restaurant of that size is not permitted development. It needs permission for change of use and proper consultation. Any councillors (St Ann's Ward?) reading this can they find out what has happened because frankly it smells really bad.
Link below to the use classes order and permitted change of use
https://www.gva.co.uk/planning/use-class-order/
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Yes, it's not permitted and, having previously refused permitted development for two of the shops, the planning department is aware of the situation. It's either incompetence or something similar.
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Permalink Reply by JJ B on
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He is useless!
Better to spend your time campaigning to get a replacement MP.
He may also give his broken record message that it isn't his remit as MP but that of the local level council.
He is useless!
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Lol when I had a housing complaint he said the same to me also.
Bandwagon Lammy is awful he talks a good talk to the media but does little for his constituents.
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So we'll have three "separate" turkish restaurants instead of one big one..
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This application has been called unlawful. There is suggestion that those responsible for granting the planning permission are incompetent or corrupt in some way.
It is always a problem with social media and the internet that allegations can be made so easily. I wonder if these allegations have been made to the face of the woman who was responsible for processing the planning application? Have the same allegations be made in person to the business people who wants to operate the restaurant? If not, why not?
I have run a several businesses over the years in Haringey and Walthamstow. I have dealt with their planning teams and have some understanding of planning law and processes.
The applications for 14 and 15 Grand Parade refer to two properties which are under 150sqm. There is no suggestion that walls are to be knocked through. So the planning officers have a simple case of two permitted developments. It is not for them to second-guess the application or to overlay planning law with some subjective opinion about the applicant. I cant see any justification for some very strong accusations, but I do agree that something smells bad. Is it a whiff of prejudice?
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The walls are knocked through, Cem; they have been for years and they haven't been put back - it's been seen. As I understand it, the original planning applications made it clear that the intention was for a single restaurant and despite permission for this in effect being refused, the local residents' association has had regular reports of work has going on regardless. I don't think there's any misunderstanding of events, Cem; most of it is a matter of public record. The only prejudice I've been made aware of is a preference for the Council to uphold the regulations.
No one has anything against restaurants of any type being set up, Cem. But the planning regulations are there for a good reason. All the RA is asking for is that the regulations are upheld. Nothing wrong with them doing that is there? Any dissatisfaction you see is with the Council and not with the business.
Social media can be godamn awful, but it can also be a responsible way of sharing information.
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