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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

THE new brand identity for the Borough:—"I am in"

New brand identity strategy for Haringey

"I am in"

Discuss.

CDC
Haringey Councillor
Liberal Democrat Party

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update to mark the 'soft launch' (click to enlarge):—

The £20,000 film, The Haringey Story

Tags for Forum Posts: I am in, Local Government, brand strategy, folly, identity, nonsense, vanity, waste of money

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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on September 25, 2015 at 18:14

Thanks for the link to the H&H Broadway page, Clive.

And also for introducing me to the phrase "Potemkin village" - a fake portable settlement supposedly built to impress the Russian empress.

Best of all was Cllr Joe Goldberg's masterpiece of vacuity in his "Opinion" column. 365 words; 52 lines.  A polished line for each week. One precious word to be savoured each day of the year.

It even includes half a quote from Marcus Garvey. And a phrase ripped completely out of context from an address by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. But I don't want to spoil anyone's pleasure in reading this for themselves.

Permalink Reply by Shem Law on September 26, 2015 at 0:20
Ha,ha,ha... Clive, people can say what they like about politicians, but they really are stubborn aren't they. Ham and High are not your friends, (see previous post). No wonder journalists, politicians & estate agents are considered the least trustworthy people in society. There's no telling you is there? You wild and crazy maverick you....
Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on September 26, 2015 at 18:30

I take it Shem, Ham & High are descended from Shem, Ham & Japheth of the antediluvian Law era ?  If their da, Noah, had proposed a slick re-branding exercise, that Flood would never have happened. "The Ark is an Attitude," saith the last of the Patriarchs. 

Permalink Reply by JJ B on September 25, 2015 at 11:50

Extensive history of the many trials and travails of the various composite areas of central and east Haringey (i.e Tottenham) have undergone over the centuries at British-History.ac.uk

No one is saying go back to old nostalgic past, but missed opportunities in a time of real scarcity is not understandable.

Here attached are three boroughs' coats of arms for reference....

Voila.

I am out again.

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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on September 25, 2015 at 18:32
In out. In out. Then you start to shout.
Pogo-ing with JoeGo
Admiring the new logo
That's what the Borough's all about
Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on September 25, 2015 at 18:27

BELOW is a statement from the Leader of the Opposition
about the Council's recent rebranding exercise
and circulated seven days ago:

MY response to these minutes is that the Council is a tax-funded service, not a brand. We are not IBM or Kelloggs trying to market our wares, we are a service.

The Council provides essential services like rubbish collection, road maintenance, and over-seeing of a sufficiency of school places. It also provides, by common consent, social services for the young and the old, and most people are happy that a proportion of their Council Taxes are spent on these social caring issues.

The Council needs to look dignified, professional and competent, and looks ridiculous if it is reduced to pandering its wares. It implies no confidence in their offer to their residents. The logo is puerile, unprofessional and likely to make Haringey a laughing-stock. Quite apart from the use of Labour red and the fact that 'Council' no longer features - as if they are ashamed of being the Council. My thought is that it has been conceived as a sales-pitch for developers, but dismally fails, both on that count, and as a visual identity that can reassure residents that their concerns will be competently addressed.

 
Best,
Gail
Cllr Gail Engert
Liberal Democrat Muswell Hill ward
Leader of the Opposition
Permalink Reply by Shem Law on September 26, 2015 at 0:44
Very good to know you all got your stories straight over at opposition headquarters and are singing from the same hymn sheet, Gail sounds as outraged as you Clive, (it must be that clean air you all breath up there) Christ, those Lib-Dem meetings most be a bundle of laughs, you and Gail taking it in turns to try and think of a better adjective to damn the new logo. But I have a problem. Now the term 'Puerile' has been adopted to describe the 'logo that shall never be acknowledged'. Please tell me what the hell was wrong with 'childish' I was just getting used to that and then you've gone and changed your minds? I know you told me politics was about choices Clive, when you so kindly explained how about just how tough being a councillor was. But now I really don't know which word is official opposition policy when talking about 'satan's' logo... Please make up your minds. You could confuse a simple council taxpayer.
Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on September 26, 2015 at 9:41

I wonder, Shem, do you always respond by insulting other people?  Sometimes a supercilious pose may be a bit amusing - like Brian Sewell perhaps. But then he had style and wit. But why not occasionally try engaging with other people's arguments as well?

I frequently disagree with Clive Carter. But sometimes what he says is thought provoking - and can be accurate and helpful.

Gail Engert's comment makes some fair points. Though it lacks a clear statement that spending a shrinking budget on a new logo is not a priority at a time when this Council is cutting vital front-line services.

Permalink Reply by Shem Law on September 26, 2015 at 11:00
It amuses me Alan, and frankly, that's the main thing... If it amuses anyone else then that is a bonus, and most importantly if it doesn't amuse you, then I've made my point. I'm glad to hear that you and Clive are not joined at the hip as I was beginning to think of you as a North London version of Statler and Waldorf, the two moaning puppets on the muppet show. Not sure what Gail is yet, as she is obviously far too sensible to debase herself by joining in on this bear-pit of a discussion, I like her already.
Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on September 26, 2015 at 11:15

I was reading a contribution by - I assume - the real Shem Law on this website.  Thoughtful, interesting, constructive and well informed.

Don't you feel any shame in using his name for pointless snobbish trolling on a local community website for your "amusement"?  At least spare him the embarrassment and pick another name.

Permalink Reply by Shem Law on September 26, 2015 at 14:10
Glad to see you're catching up on the greatest hits Alan, but if you stuck with it, it got pretty personal in that one too, what is it about intransigent middle aged men who can't admit that they might by wrong...? Calling me a snob, and troll is pretty strong stuff. Well done. You're really getting the hang of it now... A little bit of me is very proud of you.
Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on September 26, 2015 at 16:46

Shem, do you a favourite value amongst the four new ones that the Council Haringey has just launched?

My favourite is a subsidiary of the third one: Accountable, 

We spend taxpayer money as carefully as we would our own.

Sorry, but I don't think so!

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