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Mid-terraced house prices in Duckett Road or surrounding roads in April 1991

Hi

I’m after actual or advertised price data for freehold mid-terraced houses on or within a 2 mile radius of Duckett Road, for the year 1991.

So, if your house is freehold mid terraced and sold in this period, I’d be interested to know the sale price. Or if you have old local papers from the time with houses for sale in the area, that would be very useful. I plan to visit museums / libraries after lockdown to access old back issues of eg Hornsey Journal, Haringey Advertiser to access this information.

The Land Registry has sales data online, but not as far back as 1991. Ditto for online property sites. I’ve phoned multiple estate agents on Green Lanes, but they don’t hold data back to 1991.

Thanks

Maurice 

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The previous owner of our house apparently bought it for £71500 in 1992. It's possible that was on the low side at the time, as it was being sold by the executors of the owner before that.

Thanks for this. A sale is a sale, for whatever reason. Which road is the property on, if I may ask? I’m after some documentary evidence of sales prices for comparable properties to mine on Duckett Road, to appeal my council tax banding. According to the exercise, my property was allocated an April 1991 valuation of £120,000-£160,000.

This is way too high. The average sale price across all properties in Haringey in 1995, according to the Land Registry, was a tad under £100,000. Of course, terraces in eg Highgate, Muswell Hill, Crouch End would have pulled the average up that far. I’ve seen a 1996 sale on Duckett Road at £80,000. 

Mine [3 bed house on Warham) comes out at 84,500

Thanks. The valuation agency will only accept documentary evidence (eg an advert at the time, or some official copy of the price paid). I’m aware there may be sensitivity in sharing that information (a photocopy of the price paid, date, number of property, road, type of property) with me, though speaking to the Land Registry today such information has had to be registered with them (and therefore of public record) since 1993.

I’ve seen the Moneysavingexpert site. Useful, but the evidence I need must be undeniable. Actual house sale prices for like for like properties in an area built at the same time would be the silver bullet.

Your property should be in band D for council tax £68,000-£88,000.

There are a few properties here on Duckett Road in band F, and one even in band G.

I just sent you a connection request so I can provide more detail.

I think most of the normal terraces were put in band E. Some of the end of terraces in F or G - esp e.g. the end terraces on larger plots bordering the New River.

Have you tried this?  Scroll down to What was your property worth in 1991

https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/council-tax-bands-change/

Interesting! Curious as to what you're investigating, if you don't mind sharing?

Here’s the problem: I live on Duckett Road. My mid terrace property (presumably broadly built to much the same specification as most others on the Ladder, give or take inclinations) is in Band F. This is way too high (the average price across all of Haringey was £80,319 in January 1995!) - so I’m paying way too much in council tax, and have been doing so for many years. I need evidence of house transaction prices for freehold mid terraces on the Ladder between 1991-1993. 

To challenge my banding, I need any documentary evidence of

(a) transaction date

(b) transaction price

( c) property type (I’m only interested in mid-terrace freeholds - 3 or more bedrooms)

(d) address 

Council Tax bands in England (based on 1 April 1991 values)

Band Value at 1 April 1991
A up to £40,000
B £40,001 to £52,000
C £52,001 to £68,000
D £68,001 to £88,000
E £88,001 to £120,000
F £120,001 to £160,000
G £160,001 to £320,000
H more than £320,000

Karen has said newspaper ads didn’t cut it for her. Do you know what type of evidence is acceptable?

Band F does sound high. 

I would submit evidence from multiple sources, only one of which are newspaper adverts from the time. The valuation office has told me the prices should be transaction prices. Perhaps that’s why Karen came unstuck, as advertised prices are not transaction prices. 

If anyone on Harringay Online is prepared to send me a (redacted?) copy of any sales documents for the relevant property type. I’m only interested in (a) address, (b) freehold terrace, (c ) transaction price, (d) transaction date. An indication of the number of bedrooms at the time would be useful, but not essential.  

This dotgov help page seems to suggest that the banding of comparable properties is acceptable on its own. Has the VOA told you otherwise. It sounds like you’ve been told that you need both historic price and present-day comparison. 

Hugh...I’ve said why comparables is flawed - my property valued at £120,000 in 1991. Surely wrong. So it can’t be used for a comparison. Yes, some other properties were correctly classified, but that’s really only so if they were purchased in the 1991-1993 window and their banding (luckily) aligns with the price paid. The valuation office’s approach was completely without objective basis. 

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