After it was discovered at the St Ann's Labour Party selection candidate selection meeting that there were people present and voting who should not have been, I came home from the pub (where I'd heard about it) and wrote this article. It has subsequently been edited by site admins to remove the names of people who were embarrassed or in the final case where a journalist said it was potentially libellous. Well here I will attempt to summarise what we have subsequently found out and hopefully take people's attention away from my original appalling rant.
*An individual has asked that their name be replaced with their function in this post on the grounds that they are not seeking public office. This has been done.
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Because most of them are millionaires with second jobs.
Back to Labour Party shenanigans (and I'm not saying that's what Mr Keenan is not on about at all).
More than 30 people, including David Lammy, joined the Harringay ward #labourdoorstep at the weekend, just eight turned out in St Ann's. Notably absent were the five ring-ins that do not actually live in St Ann's provided by Mr Gul Ozbek at the selection meeting. Politicians have begged local Turkish Newspaper editors to pull photographs of themselves and Ali. The message is getting through.
If I could just second what Alan said about Emine, she is a good egg and has shown backbone and integrity throughout all of this. Hassle her about other stuff on the doorstep but I think she's a bit fed up hearing about St Ann's given the work she has put in to get something done about it.
The sad thing about this John is that there is no integrety in St Anns Ward where it counts. Emine is standing for Harringay Ward if I am correct, but we in St Anns Ward have no one standing that we feel we can trust. Many voters and potential voters are already stating they will vote for any one EXCEPT a Labour candidate in St Anns Ward. As for photographs not going into papers etc. well its not beyond the wit of man to go to Ozbeks Pharmacy and see what he looks like, is it? Customers and potential voters are doing that every day.
My point about the photographs and lack of campaign help is that people realise that he is a tainted candidate and do not want to be associated with him. There are plenty of photographs of him on the Internet, even one shaking hands with Ed Milliband.
I do feel very sorry for St Ann's voters and it will of course have a big impact on Harringay ward voters too (because it's all Harringay, innit). All I can say is I'm sorry and I'm doing my best to fix it, so are a lot of other people.
Tonight is the St Ann's Labour Party fund raiser in the Salisbury... anyone else want to go?
Well Phil Kennedy and I went. We had a blast. They certainly get more people I know along than at a HarringayOnline drinks these days.
I did show Nora the list of members who were presumeably signed up by Ali (another member told me that at the shortlisting he had a huge wad of membership forms in his bag all filled out) and the best she could say was "that one wasn't there, neither was that one...". So I had to point out the five that were. She said nothing to that but did say that I was gullible. Priceless.
[This is an amended posting, as some other linked comments have vanished.)
For newcomers to this thread, I assume "the list" John McMullan showed Nora Mulready is the list of 21 people (the final tally) signed-up as members of St Ann's branch Labour Party who don't live in that ward and are not registered to vote there. Five of whom took part in the selection of Council candidates - enough to change the outcome.
John McMullan tells us that Nora's response to being shown the list was that he is "gullible". Which I take to mean: overtrusting; capable of being duped: unsuspecting: unsuspicious: or unwary.
In my own case this is perfectly true. I trusted that Labour Party Regional and National officials; and my fellow Party members would never allow this sort of behaviour.
I naively believed that where its rules are flagrantly broken, the Party I've belonged to for over forty years would carry out a full and proper investigation. Unwarily I trusted that after the facts were established effective action would be taken.
It never occurred to me the Haringey Labour Parties, London Regional officials; and even Labour's National Executive Committee would collude with and - in effect - cover up such rule-breaking and vote-rigging.
So yes, I was gullible.
(Tottenham Hale ward councillor)
Just to be clear, there were some messages here from people who were at the pub and they have been deleted, not at the request of the St Ann's Labour Party as far as I am aware. The reason is that the Tottenham Labour Party are being given a chance to deal with this themselves.
No John, it's because the publisher of those posts is cautious about libel law, and prejudice of a potential court case. Mine got disappeared and I can see why, even though i was just trying to link this case to Falkirk.
Spot on Pam. Thank you. I'd hoped everyone who'd posted and whose messages were redacted would have the same clarity as you since I sent all a similar explanation for my actions.
Comment redacted - relates to a police investigation which resulted in no prosecution.
No Hugh, it relates to an incident that I and many others witnessed at the pub and was backed up by CCTV. The fact that the police got involved was so that the Labour Party could cover it up. It worked!
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