Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Keeping Harringay's New Pavements Clean.
Whilst I hesitate to mention new pavements again after the drubbing I took last time, the subject came up in conversation last night. One of my neighbours mentioned that they thought it was a shame that our new pavements were getting dirty so quickly.
Any thoughts about what can be done?
Whilst posting on this. I'd like to raise my virtual glass to the unsung heroes of the street cleaning department.
Not, locally but on Carnaby Street today, I saw a guy with a fancy-schmancy new piece of equipment cleaning the gum off the street. It looked like quite a painstaking process. I engaged the guy in conversation and learned that the whole street can take two weeks to clean. Then like painting the Forth bridge, once he's finished, he starts again.
This iPhone snap shows the machine.
I imagine his story is similar to that of many of London's street cleaners. His name is Felix. Originally from Ghana, he's a music teacher who has an unproven charge of some sort hanging over his head in Ghana. As a result his CRB check has failed and so he's scraping gum off the streets to make ends meet while his lawyer is sorting things out to enable him to go back to music teaching. Nice guy - tough break. Raise a virtual glass.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Walking though Kings Cross this morning on the way to work, a whole bunch of people were leaping out and handing out on the spot fines to people to were dropping fag ends, litter, chewing gum. £80 a pop. Hit them where it hurts.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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It would be good to see that round here, they'd be very very busy. But Kings X is a new hub of trendiness and international showcasing and Haringey not quite there, just yet… I've never seen anyone get fined for dropping litter etc. When I approached someone once years back for dropping a empty cup of coffee on the pavement outside his shop, he was very peeved and nasty with me.
People talk about education on this link… but how, where and when? and if it does seem that in some people's culture the shared spaces don't matter that much, what can be done? I'd like to re-educate those who consistently dump their left overs after eating their take aways in their cars at the end of my street…
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Permalink Reply by Cecilia on
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they use a sweeping tractor like that on St Ann's road and Seven Sisters road and it leaves the pavements even dirtier
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Permalink Reply by Marika on
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I always think of NYC when I see our lovely Green lanes filthy already. In NYC late at night I would see street cleaners, cleaning the streets with massive hoses - hot soapy water giving the streets a good old clean! I would love that to happen here, it seems like so much money goes into making things better but no money goes into maintaining it :(
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Scrubbing and hosing down plus fines for rubbish and mess dumpers generally would be really good. The message might get across then that clean streets are good for us all. A bit of carrot and stick wouldn't go amiss.
Haringey, unfortunately, is not central London and it's probably not a priority for the council. Like Marika says, once an 'improvement' is made, it's left to go pearshaped again very quickly.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Knightsbridge are charging developers £25,000 to put a tree up. Apparently that's how much the tree will cost to maintain over its lifetime.
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Can I add my pet peeve here. trading spilling on to the pavement. Some of the shops are taking up almost half of the width. Doesn't help with the overall feeling of order on GL
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Why do you think they wanted the pavements widened? ;)
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So we can walk more safely on them - or am I being a tad naive?
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It's Haringey, not Angel, nor Barcelona, nor NYC nor Kings x. We have new but low grade paving slabs in an area with a lot going on and cleaning done by men (usually men) with carts and brooms.
Figure it out folks, we are going to have to look at soiled and dirty pavements.. sorry for being grumpy again Hugh if you are reading this but it's a fact.
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Mayhap Ruth, but at £80 a pop it would be a real revenue earner for Haringey!
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