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ID for voting? What do people think?
I'm totally in favour of this. It's common sense IMHO. I can't see why some folks are opposed to it.
Every time I start a new job, open a bank or credit account or pick up a parcel I have to produce some kind of ID. What's the big deal about showing some ID before you vote?
I'm very in favour of ID cards too. I'm fed up of having to dig out copies of utility bills and passport copies for ID. I have to do this quite frequently for work. It's such a pain. I want to have one central thing that identifies me beyond doubt. If they can manage this in India then ...
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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You're right of course that it not a perfect solution but better than what we have at the moment.
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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It's also worth bearing in mind that, though India has two parallel registers of identity (National Population Register and Aadhaar), it appears that neither system has progressed to the point of actually issuing ID cards linked to voting at elections.
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Veggie reggie
This is a dire argument. You don't think it's a rational decision for someone who can't really afford to pay for foreign holidays to not splash out on a passport that won't be used? For someone who lives in London not to pay for a driving license for a car they will never need to drive?
I also find it interesting that you are capable to make such a categorical statement that all people who choose / can't afford a passport spend it on trainers? How do you know those people who have those trainers don't have passports?? We all know it's a tired predujiced statement trotted out.
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Permalink Reply by Betty Careless on
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Working with homeless people one of the things my organisation does is to support people to get ID and it's really not that easy if you've had any kind of instability in your life.
A passport costs £72.50 - plus you need your own birth certificate and your parent's birth certificate and/or passport number, and you need to have someone working in a recognised position who has known you for 2 years to sign your photos. There's a lot of people out there who might struggle with all of that - and that's beyond the basic economic decision to spend available cash on something l that will improve your life right now rather than a passport that will enable you to vote in 4 years time.
ID cards are a potential solution - although I assume that there will be similar costs/hurdles to getting one - I can't see it being a free service.
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Well, back in 2007, just before the scheme was dropped, a £100 fee was being bandied around.
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In my view the only way to make it fair is to make it free. Obviously the cost would still have to be borne from the taxes we all pay but it seems inherently unfair to make it a legal obligation to have an ID card and then charge for it. You don't get charged to register a birth or a death although there's clearly a cost associated with maintaining those registers. I think the same principle should apply.
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In Northern Ireland a voting ID card is free. Other photo IDs are also accepted to vote (driving licence, passport, Freedom Pass type card).
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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It's countries where the Queen is still the head of state.
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I find it staggering that my Belgian mother who moved here 60 years ago and still chooses to retain her Belgian passport cannot vote. She has paid British taxes for 60 years. No taxation without representation.
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But she has the right to vote in local and EU (not much longer) elections. If she wants to vote in parliamentary ones she needs to ask for citizenships....but oops look at the mess that the EU referendum has created on that front.
I am preparing my own Personal Brexit because I ain't filling out no 85 page form to get PR. They can sod that and put it where the sun don't shine!
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