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How Harringay Shows Up on London's Second Languages Map

Estate agents Savills recently published a map of London showing where a variety second languages predominate in London. Fascinating for us since we live in an area with a high street where a few second languages are very much in evidence.

The results for Harringay don't surprise me. I've overlaid a shape in pink to show where Harringay is. You'll see that the major Turkish language area seems to be by and large outside of Harringay. Polish occupies a good slice of north Harringay, but even then most of that seems to be Duckett's Common.

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Hmmm - doesn't really scratch the surface does it?

Have you seen Stephen Walter's The Island? It's a hand drawn personal map of London. One of the many things he crams in is flags representing the various local communities. Of course in our part of London things change often so some bits are a little out of date, but I think there's a lot HOL-ers will recognise.

This is my photo of N15 area: 

And http://www.bl.uk/magnificentmaps/map4.html is a full, zoomable version on the BL's website :)

I was lucky enough to work somewhere that had a print of the full piece in the office with a magnifying glass hanging next to it for people to enjoy it. I really like this artist.

"Enter at your own risk" Enfield. Tee hee.

That's really interesting - thanks for sharing!

Chuffed to see I'm near '1980s Goth HQ'...:)

better than me then - I am near "lots of men staring at women"!

I love the edge of london being a coastline with all the commuter towns as islands... the Sea of Essex and Epping Bay :)

Scary - what are the references to "Ricin makers" about?

Some years ago, the police thought there was a ricin factory in a flat on Green lanes north of Shopping City. They raided it but nothing was found.

Seeing all of London, surprising to see I do not see any Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese)?  Does that mean they are well dispersed?

http://mappinglondon.co.uk/2013/second-languages/

Mmm, yes you'd have thought, but then I can't think of a natural centre for the Chinese these days - Edgware?

According to Wikipedia:

"The Chinese population is extremely dispersed, according to Rob Lewis a senior demographer at the Greater London Authority".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Chinese#Geographic_distribution

(Scroll a little down to London Demography section.)

It also says, "According the Census statistics, there was only one ward in London with a more than 5% Chinese population, which was Millwall in Tower Hamlets at 5.4%."  And the quote source came from 2005.  As the map was based on 2011 census, maybe we now do not have that many concentration of Chinese speakers in London any more.

I am glad I got to the bottom of my curiosity.  :)

I used to see loads of groups of Chinese kids when I lived in Holloway. Often on the local buses, everyone else would be speaking Mandarin or Cantonese. I don't know if these kids were attending school from other areas or lived there with their families, but I did think this must surely be a major Chinese community. Perhaps it's just a very small one! 

Thanks for that.

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