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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Residents, Residents Groups and Traders in the Green Lanes / Harringay Ladder area may not be aware of the handsome consultation document detailing the new Green Lanes proposals which has just been published on behalf of the Green Lanes Strategy Group.

This is available to download at:
www.haringey.gov.uk/green_lanes_scheme.

Paper copies have been produced in limited quantity and are available at Stroud Green Library, Tao Sports and Cherie Hair Salon.

Views and comments are invited and welcomed and the closing date for these is 21 June 2013. 'If no major objections are received', works are planned to start in July/August 2013 and will last 9-12 months.

Comments should be emailed to: frontline.consultation@haringey.gov.uk
or posted to: Frontline Consultation, London Borough of Haringey, FREEPOST NAT 20390, PO Box 264, London N22 8BR

This is the one opportunity to have a close look at all the detail and to make constructive comments.

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So,

  • there will be no bus lane removal
  • bus stop outside Arena Trading Estate won't be moved nearer to Hermitage Rd
  • no raised-level parking bays to be installed
What happened to the two way cycling on one way ladder roads? The consultation commented on this being unpopular but I'm not clear whether they are part of the new plans or not - anyone know?

That would be good - it works in Hackney. Happens informally here anyway, although cyclists would need to keep to the left as I nearly mowed someone down who was cycling down the wrong side of my road in the wrong direction..very confusing.

I'm very relieved about the disappearance of the parking bays - wherever I encounter these slightly raised kerb things elsewhere as a cyclist, they're a bit of a nightmare.  There's been a few v recent installations of them elsewhere in London, as though they became the 'new thing', but I foresee removal again after a few years - they give off some very 1970s city centre planning vibes.

good decision on all 3 points me thinks.

Great to see the postings in favour of these proposals - I think they are excellent news for Green Lanes. There must be high streets in cities and towns all over the country that could only dream of this kind of comprehensive, considered and substantial investment. I first heard about the proposals via HOL, but more recently have seen notices pinned to various lamposts on the Ladder roads, so haven't had to look hard or far to learn a lot of detail about what is proposed, and how to comment. I hope they can be realised in full, especially the tree planting and the suspended lighting in trees. Significant efforts like this to improve the environment for pedestrians, cyclists and local businesses have to be applauded.

Therese

Glad I'm not the only one who had thoughts about exactly the sort of people that are likely to be enjoying our new outside space! I hadn't wanted to say for fear of being seen as badmouthing the whole project but I live on Burgoyne where I believe the plans are to widen the pavement at Green lanes and install seating areas and enable "community events"

While this might be great for the Food Festival, I fear that most of the time it will be populated by the men who currently hang out in the alley behind the shops at the end of Green Lanes, drinking beer and on rare occasion, requesting sexual services from me.  They seem oblivious to the wind and the rain (admirably hardy) and I imagine they will be thrilled by having seating now. 

They don't particularly concern me but I feel I could think of better things to spend thousands of pounds on than giving my local beer drinkers some seating.  Also it means only one lane exiting the road so there are going to be more queues of traffic.

I have shared my views in the consultation (we got it through the door ages ago) In general, the idea of tidying Green Lanes up and having more trees is great. It just seems that some of  the larger scalre plans are only going to be really useful if we start having long, sunny summers.

If a local authority can't even propose the replacement and widening of a pavement without certain residents deciding it will increase rubbish dumping and sexually motivated verbal abuse then what chance have they got? Funding has been obtained from sources (OLF / TfL) that are established for allocation across the city - this money could easily have gone elsewhere. I find it astonishing that proposed genuine enhancement of the urban environment can be met with such pessimism: this sort of improvement often helps to discourage anti-social behaviour, not to increase it. I'd imagine there are many, many local residents who will eventually see these new seats - the opportunity to rest and catch breath -, the smooth and level paving, the new trees, the new lighting - and be gladdened by / grateful for them. Even when the sun isn't shining.

The Hewit Road Residents’ Association made a response to the consultation. Amongst the broader non road specific issues covered in that response, residents’ concerns about existing traffic management on the road were highlighted. Support was given to the  previously expressed concern that the piazza ‘shared space’ will not work effectively with the current traffic flow pattern at the junction of Hewit Road and Green Lanes. Even without the issue of the ‘shared space’, it has been described as an “accident waiting to happen”.

The proposal to reverse the traffic flow came from the Council and it is my understanding that it is motivated almost entirely by a desire to ensure the success of the piazza which is regarded as the centrepiece of the regeneration scheme.

The road was given no choice in how the piazza traffic management issue would be solved other than to make comments on this final plan along with all other residents. I think the last 12 years is testament to the fact the road is certainly not accorded any special status or treatment.

Many of us on Seymour Rd argued years ago during the consultation on the one-way/speed bump policy that we needed to reduce East-West traffic flow through Harringay.  We were largely ignored because few other people knew how bad the traffic was. 

The solution still needs to be to reduce the E-W traffic. Tinkering with who suffers the brunt of the traffic problem is still not tackling the problem. I suppose if they keep on shifting the misery more people will be become aware of the problem.

The only, only solution is to restrict access to either end of Wightman Road.

It was the considered opinion of no less than the previous head of SNT that restricting Wightman Road to access only was the best solution to the traffic problem. John is not wrong in suggesting that this should be on the table as part of the solution.

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