Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Harringay - LED street lights - you'll need your sunglasses
Bathe in the new bright LED street lights of Hampden Rd next time your passing through. Stand under one and you could be forgiven for thinking you're on the set of the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind, just don't look up for you'll be blinded by the light (rather than beamed up).
Seriously though these lights are awful!!
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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How? More, better directed, light for less electricity - what's not to like?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Fairfax too.
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Permalink Reply by Mark B on
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All ladder I guess. Cavendish too.
This from April 2014
"As well as reducing the Council’s electricity bills and helping the environment through lower electricity usage, the new lights will help to reduce crime and the fear of crime by making our streets brighter at night."
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/led-street-lights-comin...
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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And they're doing Frobisher today. We all know they're more energy efficient. They do however give off a harsh light. Horrible things. Parts are expensive and the LED technology is changing so fast that a current option is fairly quickly difficult to service with replacement parts (according to an electrician I know).
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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I agree Matt. Not to mention the dreadful light pollution in London in general.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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The last time they messed around with the street lighting on our road, we ended up with a light right outside the main front bedroom. (If I remember rightly, that was the time when the lights went from the old orangey ones to the newer pinkish variety). So I'm not looking forward to these lights at all.
Source notwithstanding, here's an article I found on this issue from a very quick web search.
I'm assuming that someone somewhere has done a cost-benefit/harm analysis.
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That's a good article as it seems to cover most of the issues. Philips claims to offer a warm light or even what they call 'flame' option. You can try their slider which tries to show the difference although I'm finding it hard to notice. The council seems to have chosen the harsher white light.
I'd agree with this from the article you link to after what I saw in Hampden Rd;
LED lamps tend to focus their light on one particular spot instead of diffusing light evenly, as their predecessors did. As a result, they leave some patches of street and pavement almost entirely unlit — and potentially vulnerable to criminals.
I'm guessing they're going to do Falkland Rd tomorrow so probably too late to suggest they might like to install a warmer LED lamp. And seriously don't look up into these lights, they are blinding as is mentioned in that article. Lighting has a very significant impact on people in an urban environment. These LEDs look like a disaster.
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Yes the lighting could look nicer and there may well be issues with individuals' brightness/wavelength/colour (which can be solved better with LED I'm sure). Aesthetic opinion issues are a constant battle for councils.
But this is an an overall improvement because of the reduction in energy use means lower costs to the council (they need it too) and us and a reduction in CO2 emissions from that service (and we are well behind on paying that debt). It is very easy to discount the future! I hope we don't forget the benefits too easily.
Have a great weekend
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At that time, the opposite in our ocation - the new spacing of the lamp posts meant that our house is least lighted of any on our end the road.
Yes, at least the road's being lit all night - no whinging in this post.
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Gordon, having a different opinion to yourself is not whinging. So you haven't got one directly outside your house. Good for you.
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Our bedroom is right opposite of a street lamp. We already found the "orange" light disturbing at night but got used to it. Does anyone have feedback on how the new lamps impact them at night?
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hi dominic - I would ask the council - certain types of light carry different wavelengths, which in turn affect our circadian rhythms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circadian_rhythm (hence why looking at a device screen before bed is not a good idea for some). some are more sensitive than others.
Contrary to my earlier post where I sang the benefits praise be (still stick by this), there's evidence to show that the spectrum wavelength from LEDs is in the blue end of the spectrum, which in turn can be 'awakening' for some. Direction, luminosity and bulb type are all variables to consider (i.e. did the council purchase a particular wavelength to get around your problem).
http://www.manivivendi.nl/shop/data/mediablocks/blauw_wit.pdf (for example)
We have a similar personal issue I must add - the direction of the light seems to be better however as it's downwards. the colour is different which I think we should get used to.
A short term solution is thick curtains that block light.
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