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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Residents on Beresford Rd got a lovely surprise this evening when a former Cllr for the ward knocked on their door to remind the to vote tommorrow!

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I have been a life long Labour voter and and am currently a fully paid up member, but this is probably clinches that I will not be able to to vote Labour tomorrow. 

This man is knowlingly destroying the Labour party. 

You have to respect a man who can wear a vest in July though.

Sadiq Khan, oh.... wait.

600,000 members, the largest Left party in Europe and you think Corbyn is the problem?

The problem is that to win elections you need a lot more votes than 600,000. Like about 13m more. I can't see Corbyn convincing swing voters in places like Basildon, nor making much headway in Scotland. Teresa May is going to clean up in those M25 towns that Blair won back for Labour, and who they vote for usually wins. But I sense it may take another general election until some realise this.

As far as I can see the membership have had nearly 2 decades of right wing management/PPE types forced upon them, often in rather dubious circumstances. Angela Eagle's being the most glaring. I don't think Jeremy is THE problem but it's hard to get around the fact that those 170 people, over 20 years, don't belong there and don't represent the views of their members. If Jeremy has done one thing it is to have brought proper adult discussion of Socialism back into British politics.

As for some Labour member's desire for a leader, Aesop's fable of the frogs who wanted a king comes to mind.

That is not quite fair about Angela Eagle - yes she did PPE at Oxford but from a Comprehensive school in Merseyside. She was involved in Labour politics for some years. She stood in the then Tory seat in Wallesey back in 1992 - she won and has held the seat since. She was no Blairite parachute into a safe seat  - rather unlike our own dear MP of course. 

She won under very dubious circumstances. See here but it was well covered by Private Eye at the time (in print).

Right yes - you have linked to an article by Bob Pitt! (just google) This is not Blairite parachuting. That is one of the many battles that took place in the Labour Party with far left anti-democratic factions - Socialist Organiser were very prominent group and were subsequently banned from the Labour Party for entryism (quite rightly). 

I can't link to the article in the Private Eye as it's only print. That was the media organisation that the actual count of blank ballot papers was leaked to. It says essentially the same thing. Don't the Scientologists attack the messenger not the message too?

The real point is that battles with groups like Socialist Organiser were (in my view) legitimate. They were entryist, anti-democratic groups who had not interest in progress through parliamentary means.  

The parachuting of friends of Blair into safe labour seats was different - although I can see it became possible for that to happen due to the tactics necessary to defeat entryism. Life is complicated. 

The battle was never about entryism. The real agenda was to pull the Labour Party to the right, that is, accept the ideological victory of Thatcherism and remodel the Party on the lines of the US Democrats. Thus it was necessary to witch-hunt socialists out of the Party. This was successful and many of the people rejoining are those who left in disgust and despair. The far left agenda is now off the table and the battle has commenced to democratise Labour.

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