Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Fly tipping on ladder roads
Replies to This Discussion
-
Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
-
Not saying that they are the only ones, but beware the blokes who knock on your door offering to take way rubbish for a bargain price. It doesn't often get as far as the dump, a street corner is more convenient.
I use the report it app all the time and usually get a good response
http://www.haringey.gov.uk/contact/report-it/our-haringey
-
Permalink Reply by anthony n on
-
Thanks for the link - I have now downloaded the app taken pictures and reported it to the council on both roads. Hopefully it will be removed quite soon.
-
Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
-
I think there's a lot less fly-tipping since Wightman Rd was closed though. A lot less litter in general really.
-
-
My experience is the complete opposite John - I have seen a lot more litter, particularly in Green Lanes.
-
-
On Green Lanes, sure, but on the ladder, less. The detritus that would be ejected from the footwells of cars is definitely not on show here anymore.
-
Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
-
I must once again find and post a link to Liz Ixer's superb Ethnography of Dumping. Many newer members of HoL may not have seen it.
As you know, John, dumping from car footwells was one of the categories.
-
-
Footwells, maybe. There is more litter and dumped rubbish than usual in the ladder roads over the last 3 months or so.
I don't drive or cycle so I see these things on foot at different times of the day.
-
-
I also use the Report It app and am making as many reports as I ever did...once a week at least
-
-
I had received two emails to say the reports were closed - so I assumed the waste had been collected. I have just come home to find the waste still on the street. I contacted veolia directly. The response was yes they have located the waste however cannot proceed to clear it because the grab truck that is needed for health and safety reasons, is out of service. (handles hardcore waste). For how long - don't know! So the waste will remain on the street and in no doubt encourage others to add to it. What is annoying a large company like veolia doesn't have alternative provision to remove the waste.
I have now contacted the council directly and a report is being sent to the neiggbourhood action team.
-
Permalink Reply by Zena Brabazon on
-
Emine has chased this and the waste is due to be removed by Veolia today (Friday). Please let us know if it isn't.
Zena
Zena Brabazon
Cllr Harringay wardzena.brabazon@haringey.gov.uk
-
-
The concept of "Failure Demand" describes the additional work which can be generated when an organisation fails to get things right in the first place. Usually it's because of problems caused by badly designed or malfunctioning systems.
Your report, Anthony, is a clear example. Each time the unsolved problem is re-reported or the subject of a complaint by someone like yourself who is - falsely - told that the report is "closed", a new organisational "loop" is activated and unnecessary work has to be done. Adding to the time and costs. And irritating the customer - i.e. you and anyone else who has reported the same dumped builders' waste. As well as wasting your time and the time of staff involved.
Plainly the removal of builders' and similar dumped waste is not some rare and unexpected event. The Council's waste contractors - part of a huge multinational company should have the tools available (in this case a grab truck) to meet this within-the-normal-range of demand.
My own observations over many years entirely support your common sense assumption that a pile of waste on the street not promptly removed can encourage further dumping on the original pile. They may as well have put up a Please Dump sign.
And all this is before we start thinking about how they might develop preventative strategies "upstream" to see if there are, for example, repeated "patterns" of dumping on this site. And if so, why this may be, and how it might be tackled.
© 2025 Created by Hugh.
Powered by
