Finsbury Park Music Events - Summer 2017 - Update

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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on January 28, 2017 at 21:29

I think the point is that they used to have events for fun and now they have them for money to cover the bills. I used to try to say that it was only by running events in Finsbury Park that some of the poorer inner city kids could go to music festivals and get off their heads but, even without having to travel and own a tent, I think most kids around here are priced out anyway,

Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on January 22, 2017 at 10:07

If only 10% of it was being used between may and October then I doubt so many people would be frustrated. The fact is about 40% is being used. Once again Stephen you have got your Finsbury Park facts completely wrong and made incorrect insinuations about someone, why not be a big boy and apologies?

Permalink Reply by StephenBln on January 22, 2017 at 14:56

Why's that.. ?  Oh whoopee Ben, thanks.. The moment KB takes back calling me a racist, then I'll see what I can do.. 

Hah, I guess you didn't like being picked up on lighting.

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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on January 22, 2017 at 20:34

Stephen I do hope you read my comment before it was deleted. Your comment on lighting was completely wrong and so how on earth did you come to that assumption? I'll only apologise if he apologies? whoopee German diplomacy at its finest... Zzzzzzzzzzzz

Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on January 22, 2017 at 20:30

Hmm, apologies if I'm wrong but not sure if you are right about little over 25% particularly when you factor in the area by the ball courts that becomes a parking site, and the areas in the immediate vicinity of the wall which is covered in shade and not a niice place to chillax with all the security guards pottering around, whilst the roads that are usually blocked off and safe become very busy with speeding traffic... On the record I'm up for the park being used for gigs, just not this often. My kid goes to a local school and the noise is a real hassle for his learning.

Permalink Reply by Konrad B on January 22, 2017 at 21:42

Sorry it's at least 40% if not more.  A few years ago I took a map of FP divided it up into squares.  I then subtracted the areas which are not accessible by the public - the staff yard; the lake; the new cafe at Manor House; the play area at Finsbury Park gate etc.  Live Nation had over 40% of the remaining area.  And the remaining area wasn't the flat ground suitable for playing games it is the sloping area down the hill towards Endymion Rd - fancy a game of football on that slope.

The smaller events have a smaller area but they make up for that in the noise they produce.  Events like Slammin revel in the amount of noise they can make. 

Do you ever think about local residents?

Permalink Reply by Konrad B on January 22, 2017 at 22:50

"if you include the space taken up by trees, bushes, fences etc it could be even more than that :-)" - smarty - why don't you also include benches, rubbish bins etc.

The areas within the event are definitely off limits.  You can't have park users wandering about whilst you are setting up - ask the Health & Safety Executive. Last year Live Nation had their area well fenced off with no access for the park users.

Permalink Reply by Konrad B on January 22, 2017 at 23:25

Perhaps because your photo doesn't exist!  I visit FP most days and remember well the fences and the lack of people within the fences.  See my photo: ---

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• Finsbury Park - 3 July 2014 - 0032017-01-221688.jpg, 4.4 MB

Permalink Reply by Konrad B on January 22, 2017 at 22:05

Dear Mr Bin,

As you are a resident of Berlin, Germany, I don't think that that gives you a greater insight into the FP issues than real local Haringey residents.  The issue is not the percentage of people from Haringey or other parts of London.  I would be quite happy if every sq. foot (or sq. metres as  Germans say) was occupied by happy, sun-loving Londoners.  

No, the issue is of Haringey Council allowing event promoters to come in and use the parkland for what is a money making venture (if I remember £65 a day for day tickets in 2016) which has an impact in terms of using the park and noise pollution.

Do you care - no - because you are sitting in Berlin and you don't have this issue to contend with.

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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on January 22, 2017 at 13:03

Supporting or opposing events in the park does not seem to me relevant to what is happening there. In the summer of last year the High Court heard a submission by the Friends of Finsbury Park that Haringey was acting beyond its legal powers by, amongst other things, making an area exceeding 10% of the area of the park unavailable to the general public. What the High Court said was the legislation governing the area of a park in London could be restricted in this way had been superceeded by subsequent legislation so the 10% issue was no longer relevant.

The High Court judgement is now of course siting there as precedent for all such events, not just those taking place in Haringey.

There's is a link below to the High Court judgement. Paragraphs 42 to 50 seem the most relevant.
https://www.ftbchambers.co.uk/sites/default/files/R%20(Friends%20of...

Permalink Reply by DTW on January 22, 2017 at 21:56

This is such an important point that really hasn't been taken on. Not happy with the number of events in Finsbury Park? Blame the friends for Finsbury Park. Not happy with events in your park on the other side of London. BLAME THE FIRMEDS OF FINABURY PARK.

they created this situation through their irrational hatred of young people.

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