Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Finally! Some action on those dodgy ‘cafés’ on Green Lanes
https://www.thetottenhamindependent.co.uk/news/26667146.green-lanes...
10 years too late - but it’s a start. I live a stone’s throw from 3 of them, and they’re a huge blight on the neighbourhood. Enfield and Haringey Council are too incompetent or scared to take action, so it’s great that the police have finally decided to take an interest. Amazingly, one of these venues was shut after a murder a few years ago, but reopened with a new name with the apparent blessing of Enfield Council.
Let’s hope that this action is the first of many.
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Permalink Reply by BadaBing
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Would help if you explained what made a café "dodgy" and which establishments you deem deserving of the moniker.
Thanks in advance
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Unnecessary. Everyone except those who wilfully feign ignorance knows.
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Permalink Reply by Christopher Fowler
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The linked newspaper report says "illegal gambling". Is that dodgy enough for you, BadaBing?
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Permalink Reply by Ruben
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I am going to claim ignorance. The article talks about gambling in venues. Not how many, not which and not even the offences under which people were arrested. No note on whether the arrested were owners/staff or the patrons. Typical lazy journalism, which lends itself to the readers forming their own opinions without evidence of anything.
There are many cafes (and other businesses) on Green Lanes into which I would not go, but that's personal preference and doesn't automatically make them dodgy. They just don't align to my liking.
At the corner of my street there is one such cafe which regularly causes complaints from neighbours, on account of patrons displaying anti-social behaviour (urinating in people's front gardens, potential dealing of drugs, that I am aware of). Other cafes appear regularly on the LCSP minutes, on account of breaches to planning permission (opening hours, misuse of rear gardens, noise,...).
By any account, you could call "dodgy" a venue that opens 4 or 5 shops on account of calling them slightly different things, while likely consolidating or hiding the kitchen behind one to maximise table space on the other.
Also a final note, Green Lanes is over 6 miles long, most of it in Haringey. The words "swarming" and "crackdown" probably require more precision.
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Permalink Reply by tigha
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oooh I'm fascinated to know which 3 cafes you deem as dodgy
I've lived here for 30 years and there have definitely been some dodgy cafes back in the day, some late night drinking places I used to frequent including what was the then extremely dodgy Salisbury pub which always had at least 2 bouncers on the door at the weekend. But now it's all very posh and gentrified round here, can't think which cafes you seem dodgy. I know there is that one place further down towards turnpike lane, That people at the neighbours meeting complain about as they are all dressed in black. So clearly that made them look dodgy
But as far as jewellery places go, I've always had my suspicions about them. So many, so empty. But just manage to keep on going
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Permalink Reply by Dick Harris
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I seem to recall that when Met Engage reported this matter, it was referring to the section of Green Lanes a few miles north of Harringay. Closer to Palmers Green, which is why Enfield Borough figures in the story. Let's not draw any wrong conclusions.
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Admin for testingPermalink Reply by Hugh -
Of course with the uncertainty created about our neighbourhood name by the various Hornsey and Haringey borough administrations over the past 130 years, and with the lack of local knowledge shown these days by some local journalists, when the Tottenham Independent journalist writes, "... Green Lanes in Haringey...", we're left to assume what he's referring to.
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