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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I've no doubt school fetes are worthy activities, but do people really need to let estate agents get free advertising by allowing them to set up their hideous boards on their property in return for advertising school fetes. There was even one attached to the rails at the end of a section of Harringay Passageway. Do people find them pretty?

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I was pointing out that there is a lot of keyboard moaning going on yet no alternative suggestions. You have any john or is your mind wandering again?
I don't need to make alternative sugestions - that's for the PTAs concerned if they accept that people don't like schools pimping for the estate agents.

For eleven months of the year, people (not just me ) complain about the visual pollution caused by estate agents' boards which serve no purpose than to advertise the activities of the estate agent concerned. In the twelfth month, apparently the boards are acceptable because they raise money for schools.


What does this teach schoolchildren about aesthetics and care for the environment ?
Does everyone really hate estate agents that much? What's with all the language on this thread, we've got grooming and pimping. Do you really think estate agents are that evil?

I'd have thought estate agent advertising is not that likely to register on children's radar's anyway, certainly not at primary school.

And I for one hope that as soon as one someone comes up with an alternative way to raise £1000 the various PTAs just go "cool" let's do that as well flogging our boards.

As for the ugly debate - that seems to have been overshadowed a bit - maybe that's because we all accept that they are a bit ugly.
Please don't describe it as 'pimping' John. That really is over the top. You may have valid points about the fact some don't like it and the potential messages it may send but it really doesn't make us disposed to listen when you start describing hard working PSAs, who spend a good part of their free time in a year running cake sales, organising fetes, filling in bloody hard funding forms, labouring to green the childrens' environment and building beautiful gardens for them, getting books for the library, working with kids to make the schools more attractive, improving play facilities, funding dance and history events to enrich the curriculum, as 'pimping' for local estate agents.
I would second everything that Liz has said above. In my experience many parents give an incredible amount of time to helping out their local schools / community groups in dozens of ways as a way of helping whole groups of children and communities move forward together rather than focusing their efforts solely on their own children.
Andrew mentions that boards might not register with children - and I would have thought the same except that when the board went up outside my house my son did notice and looked surprisingly proud! I think children like to feel that their parents are supporting the school and they are also proud of the school they attend. What's not to like?
And John, you are absolutely right, you don't have to make alternative suggestions - but many people do choose to be constructive. PTAs / PSAs do know that some people don't like the boards but the majority view prevails.
Quite right Liz.

It's increasingly sounding more and more hysterical and daily mail.

we definitely need some perspective here.

And to all the people on this site who give up so much of their time being part of the PSA and doing so much for the schools / fairlands park / community:

HATS OFF.

Andrew
I wouldn't describe all those admirable activities as " pimping " Liz - only the one act of taking money in return for one particular anti-social activity.
Why are estate agents anti-social?

And in what way is there a similarity between allowing estate agents to advertise and the selling of sex?
Before John is characterised as a voice in the wilderness, it's worth remembering that he is reflecting a previously widely expressed dislike on this site about the disfiguring nature of EA boards.

Right or wrong, residents up and down the land expend an awful lot of energy fighting the "visual pollution" they bring. So great has the pressure become that a London estate agent recently proposed getting rid of them altogether.

And not a lot of support for the boards when Hammersmith Council asked last year.

I'm not coming down on either side of the discussion here, just offering some context.
Everything that our schools are permitted to do, the schools in Muswell Hill can do too. They probably make a lot more than £1000 out of their EA boards and definitely make nearly ten times as much as we do out of their school fairs. We're just accentuating the funding gap, we should be fighting to ban school fairs and insist that ALL funding comes from the government and taxation.

We're mugs.
You should channel some of that energy in fundraising for your kids schools, as much as I don't disagree with some of what your saying, I'm not prepared to shaft my kids because of some idealistic notion.

Maybe some of the folks that shafted us could help bridge the financial gap. Have a word with some of your colleagues down at the Wharf Club to see if they could spare some of their tuck bonus money to help the local schools.
I helped David Schmitz shmooze on the pimms stall at the SH fair, wifey made sweets, we had a board up. I'm just saying I didn't like it and just because I played the game doesn't mean I agree with the rules. Stop defending the EA boards, just take the money and smile.

I regard your insinuation that I belong to a club that would not have you as a member as libellous, please retract it or I shall be forced to engage a lawyer.

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