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Japan now has more electric vehicle charging points than gas stations.

I hope the council are paying attention to this when they grant developers car parking spaces.

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If my current 28-year-old car has to go to the scrapyard in the sky before I do, I've been thinking about what to replace her with, if anything.  One drawback with electric cars is how to charge them, running a cable across the pavement would not go down well.  As this is an area of rows of houses, I don't know a way round this unless we pave over our front yards to make a closer connection to the house - but that's even more anti-social than burning petrol.

Can we envisage coin-slot charging posts installed along the roadside everywhere? Whose investment?  We can't even get those handy indicator boards on our bus stops here. 

Where will all the electricity come from?, if everyone is pulling kilowatts off the grid every day to charge their cars up we are going to need a few more nuclear power stations. 15% of power is lost in the grid before it gets you, batteries are around 60% efficient in energy capture, plus the heat loss of the motor. What a waste of energy.

Lithium Ion batteries are now 80-90% efficient. I know this stuff is moving fast eh? Have you seen all the attic conversions around Harringay that are incorporating solar panels? Everything to do with this is getting more efficient, including solar cells. Before electric cars reach a level where they rival conventionally driven cars we will see them self driving; the number of required vehicles will plummet when this happens. Space will be available again for humans instead of cars. I'd estimate that more than 50% of ladder vehicles don't move more than once or twice a week.

I'm still not that convinced John, solar panels don't work at night and are fairly useless in winter. It's a step in the right direction though.

All the potential autonomous vehicle builders are looking for real-estate to build factories (full of robots so don't get your hopes up) to manufacture their electric/autonomous cars. More here.

Well as one electric point can only serve one car at a time whereas as a gas station provides the needs of 1000s of cars, that's not really as impressive as it might initially sound....
Well as one electric point can only serve one car at a time whereas as a gas station provides the needs of 1000s of cars, that's not really as impressive as it might initially sound....

Fair enough. I'd like people to remember the huge bet London made on gas powered street lighting just as electric street lighting was taking off...

That is what troubles me too. For everything else, Tim Urban provides pretty good answers in this epic post about Tesla Motors: http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html
Charging for those of us without off street parking is what troubles me too. For everything else, Tim Urban provides pretty good answers in this epic post about Tesla Motors: http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html.

Disappointed that batteries cannot simply be exchanged at the petrol station when low - missed opportunity! Would make 'range anxiety' a thing of the past - I don't worry about running out of petrol. 

I can't wait for them to arrive, but there are more problems than I thought.  One is weight. These cars are a lot heavier than ordinary ones (around 25%) and so their 'embodied' effects are more severe. Studies have tried to show that, as only 10-15% of the negative effects of petrol cars come from the tailpipe, the other particles that electric cars emit is more dangerous than diesel - tyre tracks etc.

An issue I don't think we're yet facing is the politics.  I've seen predictions that electric will lead to driverless which will become compulsory.That means an inevitable ban on non-driverless.

I really don't see the Govt forcing petrolheads off the road, can you?

Heavier? What? Heavier than an internal combustion engine? Where have you seen this? Links please.

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