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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Following my consideration on the origins of West Green's Black Boy name back in the summer, Haringey Council has decided to rename Black Boy Lane in West Green.

The Council have called the exercise  a 'renaming consultation', but the online questionnaire offers only the ability to choose from a shortlist of two new names. So it appears that the decision to rename has already been taken with only the choice of name left to be decided.

They have issued the following press release.

The council has launched a renaming consultation with residents and businesses located on Black Boy Lane, as part of the wider Review on Monuments, Buildings, Place and Street Names in Haringey – which was launched on 12 June 2020, in response to the Black Lives Matter movement.

The council believes that the names of our monuments, buildings, places and streets must reflect the values and diversity that we are so proud of in the borough. One of the street names that has been identified as not being reflective of this is Black Boy Lane.

Meanings change over time, and the term “Black Boy” is now most commonly used as a derogatory name for African heritage men.

As part of the consultation, the council is asking residents to consider new alternative names that celebrate some of the borough’s most notable influencers, and truly reflect the borough’s rich heritage.

The two names that have been shortlisted for residents to consider are, ‘Jocelyn Barrow Lane’ and ‘La Rose Lane’. The consultation will launch today, Monday 28 September and will run for a period of 4 weeks to Monday 26 October 2020.

Letters will be arriving on Black Boy Lane residents' doorsteps this week, who can respond to the consultation using one of the following methods:

If Haringey residents have concerns or queries about place, street or building names in the borough, please get in touch. Send your views to Leader@haringey.gov.uk.


Bios:

Dame Jocelyn Anita Barrow (15 April 1929 – 9 April 2020) was a Barbadian/Trinidadian British educator, community activist and politician, who was the Director for UK Development at Focus Consultancy Ltd. She was the first Black woman to be a governor of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) and was founder and Deputy Chair of the Broadcasting Standards Council.

John La Rose was a publisher, poet and essayist. He founded the Caribbean Artists’ Movement and publishing company New Beacon Books which has a bookshop in Stroud Green. In 1975, he co-founded the Black Parents Movement from the core of the parents involved in the George Padmore Supplementary School incident in which a young Black schoolboy was beaten up by the police outside his school in Haringey.

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Thanks for clearing that up both. Regards. 

It's a difficult one, as without private investment, either leaseholders have to foot the bill for development of aging property, or development of new housing gets funded by increasing taxes and takes 30 years longer than it could,

I think the new cabal running the council is ideologically motivated enough to go after more taxes from the middle class rather than go for private investment - or there just won't be any redevelopment until it's really too late.

Going the direction of private investment isn't bad - Woodberry down is a truly amazing example of that, where both private and council individuals get better off.

I have great respect for Michael Anderson who, to my knowledge, has never been other than clear and accurate in what he posts on HoL. But all of us are limited in what we know and see and find out. From my personal knowledge the alliance of people opposed to the HDV was rather larger and wider than his summary.

I am very fond of the ancient fable of the Six Blind Men and the Elephant. It has been told and retold in many many different versions. The Wikipedia article gets longer - and more interesting - each time I look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant

Apparently you've heard some new Haringey fable about the HDV (Haringey Development Vehicle. Or Homes Destruction Viciousness, the truthful description I prefer.)  So maybe there's a newly made up fairy story about the evil Momentum Giant?

I was one of the people involved at the time. People who shared what we discovered about the HDV elephant scheme.  Are you genuinely keen to know more?

Or maybe you prefer to believe in the version  which told blatant lies about "a more economically diverse population?" Or a fanciful fiction about "the holiest of Momentum holies". Whatever that may mean. 

Either way, it has little or nothing to do with the decent and entirely understandable impulse to recognise and build Haringey's multi-ethnic community. And to enable all of us to respect, learn about and from all our pasts. Whether we think renaming streets is or isn't the top current priority.

of course people didnt have a say in it.  Its a Labour party thing/  Wanna have a say?  Then join the Labour Party.

Can you tell me where the link is for the public consultation for a change to mayor type system or remaining in the current way because I do not recall any such consultation and certainly being a resident for 56 years didn't get anything through my door on it. 

No the link posted by Hugh is the consultation conducted by the Cllrs not a public consultation and voted on and decided by cllrs not the public and so I take it you were mistaken in your comment that it was a public consultation 

1. Yes he did

2. No it wasn’t 

3. No I wasn’t 

https://st2.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/8057374101?profile=...

Don't be mislead by Lammys response. He is just trying to show that he is representing you. He has been a long campaigner in changes that he considers the unfair treatment of the black community..Read his book and report..The time table listed does not show that Haringey will consult ALL Haringey residence just those on black boy Lane or surrounding businesses. Haringey will go ahead as this is Mr Ejiofor agenda. Lammys letter further states that Haringey will inform stakeholders mentioning Council tax. The key word being INFORM, not given choice, vote, Inform. What you will get is a letter saying it will change from and a date..Mark my words the decision has been made.

I'm sure the decision was been made back in June. However, if people against the change make their voices heard, then it can be overturned.

Agreed and that's why we must keep the pressure on. 

This thread is becoming less about the proposal to change the name of Black Boy Lane and more about not liking the current administration. Fair enough if that’s your view but one seems to be clouding the other.

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