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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Following my consideration on the origins of West Green's Black Boy name back in the summer, Haringey Council has decided to rename Black Boy Lane in West Green.

The Council have called the exercise  a 'renaming consultation', but the online questionnaire offers only the ability to choose from a shortlist of two new names. So it appears that the decision to rename has already been taken with only the choice of name left to be decided.

They have issued the following press release.

The council has launched a renaming consultation with residents and businesses located on Black Boy Lane, as part of the wider Review on Monuments, Buildings, Place and Street Names in Haringey – which was launched on 12 June 2020, in response to the Black Lives Matter movement.

The council believes that the names of our monuments, buildings, places and streets must reflect the values and diversity that we are so proud of in the borough. One of the street names that has been identified as not being reflective of this is Black Boy Lane.

Meanings change over time, and the term “Black Boy” is now most commonly used as a derogatory name for African heritage men.

As part of the consultation, the council is asking residents to consider new alternative names that celebrate some of the borough’s most notable influencers, and truly reflect the borough’s rich heritage.

The two names that have been shortlisted for residents to consider are, ‘Jocelyn Barrow Lane’ and ‘La Rose Lane’. The consultation will launch today, Monday 28 September and will run for a period of 4 weeks to Monday 26 October 2020.

Letters will be arriving on Black Boy Lane residents' doorsteps this week, who can respond to the consultation using one of the following methods:

If Haringey residents have concerns or queries about place, street or building names in the borough, please get in touch. Send your views to Leader@haringey.gov.uk.


Bios:

Dame Jocelyn Anita Barrow (15 April 1929 – 9 April 2020) was a Barbadian/Trinidadian British educator, community activist and politician, who was the Director for UK Development at Focus Consultancy Ltd. She was the first Black woman to be a governor of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) and was founder and Deputy Chair of the Broadcasting Standards Council.

John La Rose was a publisher, poet and essayist. He founded the Caribbean Artists’ Movement and publishing company New Beacon Books which has a bookshop in Stroud Green. In 1975, he co-founded the Black Parents Movement from the core of the parents involved in the George Padmore Supplementary School incident in which a young Black schoolboy was beaten up by the police outside his school in Haringey.

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This shows the pub c1900. But I'm not sure what either the pub sign or the records of licensee will tell you. 

Oh my! It is a black and white photo. Shouldn't it be retroactively colourised to reveal all the nuances and details.

'reveal'? You're joking right?

'guess at', 'impose misleading detail' or 'make look pretty' might be more appropriate.

Of course!

in the olden days it looks like it was so fine for children to stand around in the middle of the road

They were allowed to contract diphtheria and polio as well.

The problem with that line of argument is that it is all in the eye of the beholder. One persons hero is another's villain. One person's innocent symbol is an offence to someone else.

I grew up near a pub called the 'Oliver Cromwell' in Merseyside. This was regarded as a little  'insensitive' (to say the least) by  local Irish Catholics. I don't remember any campaign but it quietly changed its name to something anodyne. 

Political correctness gone mad?

Yes. But it is far easier to change a business name than a road name.

But DavidJ, didn't you know that Ann O'Dyne was one of Cromwell's most memorable victims?

The funny thing is that it has only just occurred to me that I think it  became 'The Royal Oak' -  not so anodyne after all!  

Ha! Charles II, aka the Black Boy, has a lot to answer for...

This petition was after the BLM protests. As regards to few signing proves that there are not that many interested in a name change in Haringey. I must also point out that I found the comments made by the petitioner very disturbing. He claims it's a safeguarding issue. Safeguarding is a serious matter to protect children and vulnerable against direct abuse and wasting resources on claims that it's a safeguarding issue because there is a school near a name that he finds offensive is ridiculous. In fact I bet no children from that school even ever thought about it before and if they do now it's the adults planting this seed. 

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