Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Council announces £300,000 for 'traffic calming" in 'The Gardens' area of Harringay
The following is a press release from Haringey Council:
A local community will help redesign the street layout of their neighbourhood through a Haringey Council project that will see the area transformed.
The Gardens area off Green Lanes in Harringay has been chosen for the Community Streets neighbourhood improvement project.
The project will look at several key elements including innovative traffic calming design, reclaiming space, designing the streets for people rather than traffic, and promoting healthy and environmentally friendly transport modes.
The first year of the two year project will involve regular meetings with the local community to agree proposals and plan the street works which will begin next year.
The council has asked Sustrans, the UK’s leading transport charity who completed the successful Turnpike Lane DIY Streets project last year, to work with them again to get the community involved.
Haringey's Cabinet Member for the Environment, Cllr Nilgun Canver, said:
"Community engagement is key to the success of this project. It will give the initiative back to residents and allow them to create a space suitable for people to meet, socialise, and play. I hope everyone will get involved and take this opportunity to help design their own neighbourhood."
The project is funded by the council and TfL and will focus on the Gardens neighbourhood, including: Chesterfield, Cleveland, Devon, Doncaster, Essex, Grafton, Kimberley, Portland, Rutland, Stanhope, Sussex and Warwick Gardens.
These roads were chosen because they are near to Green Lanes and will complement the upcoming town centre improvements.
The project will be completed by July 2014.
A community engagement event for Community Streets will take place on the 29 September in Grafton/Doncaster Gardens and will be linked with the Garden Residents' Association 10 year anniversary celebrations for their Community Garden.
Project newsletter attached.
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Permalink Reply by JJ B on
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sufficient size and shape!!!!Yup nobody ecapes the hell!
1) I don't drive regularly, don't own a car but am a car club member.
2) I live and have lived next to various versions of speed humps/cushions/etc IT IS NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE because it evens make you feel as if you WANT to be run over by a speeding vehicle to end the hell! Vibrations, cars slowing and accelerating in front of your property...
3) I have had back issues in the pass, still have minor pain. Going over a hump in a bus/car is NOT NICE!
Look here and see and see the pro and cons and costs of various street installations.
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Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on
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I'm pretty sure there was consultation as I went to two; one at the church at the bottom of Allison Road and one at the Greek Church Hall. The result was a far better system, not perfect but much better. Maybe a consultation on Ladder traffic flow is due and a reflection on how the changes of ten years ago can be improved.
The GRA equivalent is the LCSP, I am unsure if they are as effective as the GRA though?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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They're rather different animals. The GRA is a traditional residents' association with a broad campaigning remit and a strong role in bringing a wide range of Gardens residents together around community activities.
As I understand it, The LCSP (Ladder Community Safety Partnership) was founded around policing and enforcement related matters. In my experience whilst it has widened its remit somewhat, its focus remains true to its original intent. Its work is undertaken largely by one person who puts in a great deal of personal time to achieve the LCSP goals, work for which he is to be lauded. It's not a residents' association in the same way as the GRA.
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Permalink Reply by ant on
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So should we make one? Some sort of more traditional residents association structure to overlay or compliment what we have with HoL, but still do things here at HoL with everything online and in the open? Isn't the main thing needed to be a formal residents association just to have a constitution and yearly elected chair/secretary/treasurer and then it gets taken more seriously by things like the council and can apply for funding, get a seat on the GLSG etc?
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Certainly a conversation worth having. I think the Ladder would be well served by having an organisation that does much of what the GRA does, but for me two areas stand out - its strong community feel and involvement, together with its successful track record of shaping community aspirations into workable initiatives and seeing them through to fruition. Of course, whilst a number of particular local variables have determined the GRA's ability to achieve its goals, significant amounts of hard work and effective leadership have been two of the key factors.
On the Ladder, I think any new organisation would need to find a way of integrating with the LCSP - or growing from it. Whilst it may not provide the breadth of community focus that the GRA does, it would be foolhardy to jeopardise the good it does. -
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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Has there ever been talk of a Ladder Resident's Association Hugh? I could imagine that it could be tricky to organise, but the Garden's seem to have got something of an act together on the point? It seems there are a lot of areas that may benfit from something that aims to speak for the area that could compliment other forums like the LCSP?
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There has been talk, but sadly it's never amounted to more than just that. If there are people willing to step up and take a leading role, it could happen and could run very nicely alongside or together with the LCSP.
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Tried replying to your post, but there is no 'reply' button, just a Message button- are we are the edge of technical limitations of the system here, going 8 layers+ down (think "Inception").
I would be happy to be involved with a local forum, but I suspect like many the commitment might be too much- that and the fact it really needs someone who actually knows how to get soemthing done on this level, which excludes most regular folks?
If anyone does want to have a crack I would like to hear about it and contribute.
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(Yes 8 indents is the limit)
You express pretty much how I feel, Justin. I guess it'll be the same for many of us which is why we're where we are. We just need that one exceptional individual with the time, interest and skills.
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Could it be possible to start this in a more low key way without having one special person to lead it? Something like create a HoL Group, perhaps The "Harringay Online Residents Association" group, let anyone who is a resident here join, and just start discussing and doing stuff. Theres the play streets thing we've been discussing where having a more precise group sounds like it could help, the rubbish visits that are being organized, and i'm sure other things we can think of and to come up. We don't really need a chair yet so could put off finding a leader till later. Call it an experiment, be careful to be respectful of the LCSP, and just see what happens and if it grows or dies?
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You're welcome to try, Ant, but again I'd caution you, even online I'd be cautious about its chances of success without having someone driving things and moving them into real word action.
In the final analysis, HoL is just a huge virtual room. Much of the stuff that's needed to make things happen in the real world will still be needed for an online-based association.
The benefit of HoL is that you have the opportunity to engage many many more people on a different basis to the classic church hall set-up. It also creates transparency, a public record and the opportunity for the busy and timid to contribute.
So, don't get me wrong, I think it could be hugely powerful, but I think you'd need to start from a realistic viewpoint. I think you'd need to be prepared to offer some online leadership and to be realistic about what can and can't be achieved with an online only set-up.
From my experience of HoL over the past five years, here's how I think it works in a virtual RA role.
I think HoL helps; it achieves some ends. It informs and provides a platform for a certain level of debate. It also helps some people take action on their own and to orchestrate things that can be achieved online like objecting to a planning application. Sometimes it enables folk to get together to do stuff in the real world. We have some great examples of that.
It may be that you could develop this further, Ant. I'd certainly be interested to see what could be done.
You could start by setting out your idea on a new thread perhaps?
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