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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

21 FAMILIES WHO LIVE AT CONNAUGHT HOUSE, MUSWELL HILL ARE BEING MADE HOMELESS

The Metropolitan Police are planning to make 21 families homeless by reclaiming the land for profitable redevelopment. 

AS YET THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN PLANNING PERMISSION MEANING THESE BUILDINGS COULD LIE EMPTY (& OPEN TO VANDALISM) FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. 

By doing this, they will be ripping the heart out of the community that live here. 

Some of the residents, having lived here for over 20 years (and brought up children and raised families), have been informed by Crown Housing Association and Haringey Council that they have no legal obligation to re-house them, thus making them homeless. 
In the current climate, where Social Housing is already under extreme pressure, virtually non existent; is making another 21 families homeless, the best solution? Are the financial needs of the Metropolitan Police greater than those of people's lives? 

BAILIFFS ARE DUE THE 2ND WEEK IN MARCH!  (11th)


Local groups are getting involved, as well as Occupy London and Save Barnet Library.

Please come down and give your support.

LOCATION: Connaught House, Muswell Hill, N10 3LH,



They also have a Facebook page: Facebook: Save Our Homes


Tags for Forum Posts: Connaught House, community, eviction, homes, local, police, protest

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Colin, I think you misunderstand the intention of John and Bethany. They are merely pointing out that you have confused the London Borough of Haringey with the neighbourhood of Harringay.

On your second point, as someone who compiles the newsletter weekly, I beg to differ that "most of the forum topics, in this forum, are outside of the district of Harringay.". In fact, on an average week only a couple of topics may pertain to areas beyond Harringay although where council policies are being discussed such as in relation to waste, examples from beyond Harringay are likely to be added.

Overall, the site concentrates mainly on stories in Harringay although we have contributors from those neighbourhoods that border it such as South Tottenham, West Green and Noel Park. Other neighbourhoods have their own social networks and blogs and tend to concentrate on very local issues too e.g. Bowes and Bounds or Noel Park net 

Of course, people don't just have an interest in their immediate neighbourhood and posts on happenings further afield are welcome. Some may cause discussion while others may not.

Your frustration that Harringay people haven't rushed to this post is understandable. I have posted on welfare reform and not had a rush of people to those threads either, even though this something very likely to affect our friends and neighbours right here in the 'hood (talking to a friend this morning, she said that people in her block are simply paralysed, not knowing what will happen to them after April) but I've chosen not to call 'shame' or dismiss them because I have simply no idea whether they care (they probably do) and its not my place to judge what they should care about. 

I wish the residents luck. The law as it stands doesn't give tenants many rights but if some of those residents have secure tenancies there may be hope. I presume the tenants have taken legal advice on this? 

They have taken legal advice. The problem is that the law is skewed towards the property owners.

What they can do is highlight the situation in the current time.

2 million Council Houses sold since the 1980's. 340,000 built since then. Something went wrong.

1 million residential properties empty in Britain. 100,000 in London (many in Central London).

400,000 commercial properties empty. Many do not have to pay business rates. All of those properties are more profitable empty than having people live in them.

We are all affected, whether you are a plumber/electrician who has less work or someone seeking to rent in the private market, because there are no Council housing available. 

One reason they posted on this site. They need assistance.

Then again, most people only care once they are affected. Like the ones working to save the NHS. Most people do not care as they believe themselves to either be too young and healthy, not disabled or believe themselves able to afford private healthcare. By the time they realise the situation, it's too late.

The landlords have programmed the peasants to hate each other. Divide and conquer is the rule.

Browser playing up - my comment's below but I don't seem to be able to delete this one posted in error, although I can edit it to tell you how stupid I've been!

A couple of points:

1) I hadn't understood the exact role of the Met Police in this from the original posting. It may be that I have been a bit dense, but I'm not sure from some of the earlier comments that others had either. A quick Google search reveals that the Met very much do have a controlling interest here - they own the land and are reclaiming it from a housing association as the lease comes to its end in order to sell it off for profit. What we have here is publicly-owned social housing that is being sold to private interests, at the expense of those that need it.

2) Mentioned above, but worth reiterating, this isn't in Harringay. While I get the impression that people on this site do care about what happens in nearby neighbourhoods, it's inevitable that the response isn't as strong as if this were happening in our home patch. That said, I'd support the decision to bring it to attention through this forum since it is still a local issue and you may find well find some support in this part of the borough.

If you are lucky enough to get Council housing you would tend to pay one third the price compared to the private market.

2 million council housing were sold since the 1980's, whlist only 340,000 were built afterwards.

The various governments have found it much better to keep the housing bubble growing, rather than solving the problem of housing.

Currently there are 1 million residential properties empty, 100,000 in London.

400 ,000 commercial empty and more profitable empty than in use. Property just keeps going up in price.

We are in the midst of a bubble akin to the Tulip bubble in the Netherlands from the 1630's.

 or the internet bubble from the 2000's.

Put it this way. A friend used to rent from a landlord who had 20 houses, but only needed to rent 10 to pay for all 20. You end up paying for the landlord's mortgage with no return and could face eviction if there is conflict. 

Council housing guaranteed housing for life, until they started selling the housing to property developers. 

The Right to Buy was supposed to turn people who would have had no chance any other way into homeowners. Of course, it didn't quite turn out that way

Social housing should be for those who need it, not a right for life. I am a foreigner, I arrived in England in 1998 and rented with 6 other people in a 3 bedroom flat. I worked 20 hours/day (not joking) including weekends. I fainted a couple of times and I slept in the office when I was too tired to get home. Then I was promoted, bought a house etc.

The 18 and 20 years old can leave home and do what I did. England is in a mess, deficit is high. It would be wonderful if we all had the state to pay for our housing and all other needs, but this is not the case.

I say, start looking for a job (there are quite a few out there, not everybody can be CEO of a company, so it is a matter of accepting jobs that you would consider "beneath you") and then you can rent/buy wherever you want.

Also, if they are not working, they could be moving everywhere, why do they need to be in Muswell HIll? Because they "like" it?

I would like to live in Chelsea, but I can't afford it, I won't ask them for social housing there.

 

Sorry, but somebody needs to say it as it is.   

There is lots of social housing in Chelsea, and I would assume, areas like Chelsea, such as Muswell Hill actually benefit from social housing as it creates a social diversity.  Why should areas be exclusive solely to people of a certain wealth. One would not expect areas to be for only a certain nationality or race.

Not everyone especially can be a nurse, teaching assist, support worker, nursery nurse, youth worker, charity professional or, for that matter, police officer, Family support worker, social worker......  but these professional have as much right to live in the neighbourhood they were bought up in as anyone else.

Remember one does not have to be scrounger unemployed to have social housing one just needs to be poor.

Hi,

I understand that and I totally agree that if you work in a profession where you are not paid much, you should be entitled to social housing.

however, the example that the people from Connaught House are using is that of a woman, currently unemployed, with two children who are 18 and 20 who can't leave home. I am very tempted to write about mine and my husband's story (he got kicked out and slept in a park for about 6 months) and now we made it. We are not rich, but we can get by.

I honestly would feel very embarrassed telling the world that I am 20 (18) and living at home with mummy because I can't find a job as many are beneath me.

I think many people agree with me, we need to get out of this spiral. I believe (I don't know of course) that perhaps the nurses etc living in Connaught House and working in the area are being re-housed in the borough. The other ones, despite their "local links" don't really need to live there, do they?

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