Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Chelsea tractors / Heavy vehicles help cause potholes
Chelsea tractors /heavy vehicles as well as being largely unnecessary in Haringey help to cause and deepen potholes, potholes pose a real risk for pedestrians, cyclists, motorbikes, and cars including those with stiff suspensions. The councils should draw up a list of factors that cause potholes, and plan accordingly
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Nor do the busses sadly. We must pass laws against electric scooters...
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Permalink Reply by Martin (Woodside) on
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I don't own a Chelsea tractor, but I can't see why they would cause potholes more than any other vehicle. The problem is just down to excessive use (by any powered vehicle) because we live in an increasingly crowded borough, and a lack of maintenance in spite of the income from road-tax.
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They're heavier and our roads are built using tar because it's a waste product from the oil refining process.
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Permalink Reply by AndrewAW1 on
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The heavier the vehicle the more damage by far. Damage to roads is estimated to be the fourth power of the axle weight. If you compare something like a Ford Fiesta to a BMW X5 which is ~ double the weight the damage to the roads is ~ 16 times greater (2^4).
(Obviously this is even worse when you're looking at HGVs. That's more like 100,000 times worse than a car. Although that car is then something like 20,000 more damaging than a bike and so on)
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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It's not that simple. With its larger tyres an X5 will have a larger footprint than a Fiesta and therefore the impact will be less.
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The impact per unit area may be less (but not by much given the relative vehicle weights) but the total loading by the footprint - and therefore the total force applied to imperfect surfaces like potholes - will be greater.
May an elephant caress you with its toes, John D.
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The weight of the vehicles definitely contributes to exacerbating what may start as a small, weather induced, crack in the road. Just think about what damage a bicycle might do (none) and work up from there.
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So the government is investing £6 billion in local roads but only another £20 billion in the NHS (which will apparently require a 3% rise in income taxes).
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