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Corporation tax is down from 21p to 19p (17p by 2020) and VAT is up. Call that a shambles? That's exactly what we could have expected of them (move tax burden from producers to consumers) and that's exactly what they've done.

Yes the Tories have created policies conciously, vindictively and some might say successfully such as atttacking and 're-organising' the NHS in order to drive through privatisation and moving the tax burden from the rich to the poor (corporation tax break, increase on VAT and tax breaks for the wealthy). The result of these policies have been choas and shambles.

NHS shambles-longer waiting for GP/ consultant appointments, queues stitting in rows on the foor of A&E, understaffing, winter crisis etc....

Prisons shambles- riots, overcrowding, understaffing....

Education shambles-school places shortfall, classroom overcrowding, no planning for future expansion, 'Free' school chaos...

Not to mention Brexit shambles...and on and on...

Yet you are right, this is what we expect from them and this is exactly what they have done.

@Maggie: Why are you surprised? What principles and solutions do you / the left offer? You have nothing but rage and hatred of Donald Trump/Tories and conservatism of those like Ted Cruz and Nigel Farage. (Do not confuse conservatism with the Tories, who are by and large frauds in this regard--a separate topic.) 

You can sit here and criticise Farage: For sure he will never be PM, never have a cabinet post, but that won't change the fact that he and he alone is responsible for changing the nature of British foreign policy for the first time since WWII.

So please proffer some policy and justification or kindly be quiet.  I already have no voice in terms of how the insane tax money I have stolen from me by the government each month is spent and socialism--a proven failure in the 20th century--is certainly bound to make that worse. Going down that road again, at some point the few of us who actually produce jobs and wealth, and who made most of you rich as homeowners incidentally to our capitalistic endeavours will be driven out.  See what tax base you have then.  The actual shame is in admission of supporting the left who know nothing about economics whatsoever, save how to destroy economies.

What on earth are you on about?  You seem to like bleating on about how much tax you pay, but I'm sure you utilise schools, the health service, defence, and all the other things those taxes pay for. 

How has Nigel Farage changed the nature of British foreign policy?  He has made it more acceptable in some parts of society to be openly racist, is that what you mean? 

It's quite obvious that the further to the right governments and their policies go, that more and more of the population appear to be 'Lefties'.

Knavel, instead of just recycling the same old mantra, you should be aware of what damage Farage has done to the U.K. at home and abroad. Take a look at this - published today: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-04-20/alarm-bells-star...

At a stroke, the U.K. has pushed Germany into the no.1 position within Europe, not only economically, but also with this push by Trump, followed by May, for NATO countries to spend 2% of GDP on the military, that will position Germany as the second military force after the USA in NATO. A position, Germany certainly didn't want.

This is what daft nationalist ideas, thought up in pubs do. They have altered the accepted post war distribution of power within Europe.  So not only is the U.K. not the leading economic power in Europe, it won't be the major European military power either. A backwater - That's Farage's legacy.

"@Maggie...You have nothing but rage and hatred...kindly be quiet"

Dear Knavel, kindly calm yourself, this is only day three of the election period and you are supposed to play the ball not the person. I'm busy getting my potatoes in the ground at the moment but will be back at some point to say why it is so good to live in a country funded by tax and to try to answer "what has socialism ever done for us", unless someone else wants to take it up in the meantime... Regards...

OK. I'll go first. The NHS

Second - bankrupted the economy - twice 

I think you'll find that government debt since 2008 has never been higher and will take until most of us are long dead to pay back. So much for the myth of safe tory hands. They've already blown all the infrastructure investment money that the next two generations should by right, have expected to inherit.

While it is correct to mention Labour's failures in the past, they are not relevant as most, if not all of the political players involved are now pushing up the daisies. Today's debts were made by this and the previous governments whose once shining star is now a budding newspaper editor.

And just to annoy you John D, Germany's government has been running a balanced books economy for the last five years with no new government debt since 2011/12.

It doesn't annoy me Stephen. it makes me envious, yes.

...ah yes, the deep recession of 1982 with 3 million unemployed or 'Black Wednesday' 1992 sterling crisis and hasty withdrawal from ERM, both under Thatcher.

I was thinking more of the devaluation under Sunny Jim Callaghan, forced on us by the EMF; and the situation at the end of the Brown government. Brown used to be nicknamed " Prudence ": I never realised that was meant to be ironic.

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