Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Brand new community centre for Harringay mosque approved
The mosque at the junction of Wightman Road and Hampden Road will have its current community centre replaced with a three-storey building, including a new prayer hall, teaching facilities and a library.
The extension will replace the existing single and two storey outbuildings on the wing of the mosque, after an application from the mosque’s current tenants the London Islamic Cultural Society (LICS).
Abdool Alli, chairman of the LICS, said: “This is a unique and inspiring opportunity for the diverse community we are located in. We will be providing better community facilities for our youths and families.”
All Haringey councillors at the planning committee meeting on Monday voted in favour of the scheme, with the agreement a number of conditions would be met - including a requirement that all material used in the construction match the existing building.
via Tottenham Journal
Tags for Forum Posts: hampden road, mosque, wightman road mosque
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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I'm planning another three-storey extension further south on Wightman, matching my current residence in all respects.
Now which Councillor will dare object?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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The decision on this is attached.
As far as I'm aware, the only negative element of this is the potential to create more traffic. On this point the decision says the following:
The proposed extension adds a significant amount of floor area to the existing building, however the applicant stated that it is not intended to expand the level of activity on the site. Therefore no significant increase in people or vehicles attracted to the site is anticipated. However, the applicant has submitted a Transport Statement and a Travel Plan in support of the proposal. The Travel Plan has been assessed by Council’s Transportation Team and they have commented as follows:
7.2.4 ‘Although a small increase in patrons is anticipated in connection with the improvements to the community use, the applicants’ consultants have carried out a patron survey which reveals that 77% of individuals travel to the Mosque/Cultural Centre from within a 1 mile catchment area. Additionally, the modal split for journeys to and from the centre shows that 90% of patrons travelled using non-car modes
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planningreport2.pdf, 43 KB
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this is ridiculous, parking and traffic are unbareable when both the church and the mosque are in action, this will only make things much worse. it annoyed me so much i decided to track down the woman who was chief plannig officer on the project (i have her name number and email should you want it) and she didnt really care what my concerns were. she said that 200 people were contacted to canvas opinion but none in my road (falkland) because she felt it was to far away to matter, ultimately she didnt really seem to care what my concerns were. what is most frustrating is that there is little we can do to oppose this massive expansion of what is already a junction from hell. basically the planning officer said that traffic wasnt going to be a problem at that i should just get on with it.
i have such little faith in the actions of the council when it relates to the needs of the local community and this just serves to compound my fears.
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Ashley, I'm sure you know that the Wightman-Hampden Junction was also home to a synagogue until a few decades ago. It was, of course, their foresight of possible future traffic snarls at the Wightman-Hampden (which, incidentally, they called "the junction to heaven") that induced early Jews, Christians and Muslims to set aside Saturday, Sunday and Friday as their respective days of sabbath and worship. Even Seventh Day Adventists eventually adopted the Jewish sabbath on condition that they could also have a minimum of 77 stalls at occasional Sunday food festivals. From an exhaustive study of the Scriptures, Midrashim and Hadith we believe that yours is the only complaint we have received about our arrangements since before the Exile in Babylon. You conclude: " i have such little faith in the actions of the council ". We cannot grant you faith, Ashley, if you do not have it. Why not try staying in bed for those three days of the weekend? We are sure this remedy will at least relieve your traffic symptoms.
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I don't really care if the site Is a burial ground for ancient red Indian warriers who were married to one armed budhist Catholics. The traffic is going to rise.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Ashley - don't you feel that Muslims living in this area are part of the local community and that their needs should be met too ?
Would you oppose a non-aligned community centre when others are being closed owing to Haringey cuts and young and old people have nowhere to go ? Should their needs be ignored so that you can save 10 minutes on your way to Ikea ? Oh, there's Sikh temple at Brent Cross so perhaps you don't go there either.
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Sorry. But what's that about ikea. And the stuff about me not wanting to allow a place for Muslims. Where did I say I want to get to ilea quicker and I don't want to allow Muslims a place to gather. Where John, where?
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Permalink Reply by Paul Harvey on
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Haha, my first thought on reading your post was indeed that you are a Muslim-hating Swedish furniture lover... It's obvious really when you deconstruct the words you have chosen...
Anyway, if anyone wants to get to ikea quicker just go to the Edmonton one... Just saying
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Permalink Reply by Protheroe O'Shea on
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yeah right. because all local people walk. that's why there's no traffic here.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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The Haredi community of Stamford Hill, like other conservative branches of Judaism, interpret driving as work. So walk to synagogue - and everywhere else - on the Jewish sabbath from sunset on Friday.
The obvious solution, Ashley, is for all the major religions to have another look at their holy books and teachings which are somewhere bound to contain a similar ethical rule. The benefits to community cohesion, safer streets and health are obvious.
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