Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
A rubbish day in Harringay - Sunday 9 July
http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/rubbish
It not a major undertaking, just up one side of the street and down the other, not forgetting the bits at the tops and bottoms of the road on Green Lanes and Wightman.
So far we have the following rubbish photographers
Justin Guest - Pemberton
Kotkas - Mattison and Duckett
Me - Warham, Seymour, Allison and Beresford (and Lausanne if my legs hold out)
Els - Sydney and Raleigh
Osbawn - Avondale
John D - Hampden and Frobisher
DS - Fairfax and Falkland
Hugh - Hewitt
ThaiDi -Hermitage
GraemeTP - Effingham
Gordon T - Cavendish and all points south
Michael
Tags for Forum Posts: dumping, rubbish, veolia, waste collection, waste collection charges
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Permalink Reply by Justin Guest on
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I just missed getting a money shot of the little white Veolia bug thing coming down the streets sweeping the gutters.
Now, I am a natural cynic, so, either this is:
- Entirely coincidental, and it was always part of Veolia's Master Plan
- Someone is watching HoL (excellent)
- Someone has had a nudge from a ward Councillor (again, excellent)
Well done Veolia for giving it a go, but as you can see 50% of the organic debris accumulating is on the pavement, and good proportion behind cars parked next to the kerb- which is admittedly hard to tackle. This bit below is a wide open space on the zig zags next to the school.
I have seen this machine used in conjunction with a couple of guys sweeping debris out of the path corners and into the street for it to pick up- I think this is possibly the most effective approach. Frankly it dose not need doing every week, just once in a while, and more than almost never.
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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Saw the machine at the bottom of your street a few minutes ago Jus. Like you say, unless they get a broom and sweep out the bits of the gutter blocked by parked cars all we'll end up with are lovely, shiny hubcaps
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Lovely observation, Michael. A system for polishing hubcaps. Perfect.
Years ago I asked/suggested the possibility of a No Parking time-slot. So there could be a rolling programme of cleaning gutters. And also blocked drain gullies, depending on the angle of a car parked over them, may not always be visible. And in any case harder to clean.
We now often have single lane streets with a carpark on either side. The single lane gets narrower as cars become wider and larger - the fashion for "people-carriers" and SUVs.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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When I lived in Brussels they had a system where you parked your car on one side of the street during the first two weeks of the month and on the other side for the rest of the month. Changeover was at midnight on the 15th and was strictly enforced . Not one minute before: not one minute after.
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This is along the lines I had in mind, John D.
A New Yorker friend told me they did it. Dunno if they still do.
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Permalink Reply by JulieB on
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Here is my half of Conway Road (I didn't go to the West side over Woodlands Park Road).
Someones dinner:
Rest of the dinner:
Box full of rubbish:
Wall of rubbish and half of a food processor:
More boxes of rubbish:
Fly tipping, I assume:
Finally some lovely flowers who have migrated into the gutter:
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Permalink Reply by Angela on
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Wow, these images are shocking. Thanks to everyone who took the photos.
I agree there are a number of factors which lie behind this (but not with the poor parenting or unchecked immigration so called factor)
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Permalink Reply by graemeTP on
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Interestingly I noticed a couple of the (growing) heaps of waste had been slapped with Haringey stickers this morning - 'Did you see who dumped this here?' By this evening one vast pile had been fully removed, as the label promises. The other had just grown further, such that the sticker itself had been concealed, faintly ironically, by additional rubbish.
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Permalink Reply by Julia on
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My walk to Turnpike Lane station this morning (I didn't bother with photos of cigarette butts, bottles, bits of paper etc. as I'd never have got to work). These were all reported via the app.
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Permalink Reply by kotkas on
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Scan of Mattison Road and Duckett road. I add the photos I posted earlier in line, because it shows much more clearly - I will delete my earlier post. I took a dual approach:
1) Documenting any piece of rubbish, or piles thereof which is larger than a cigarette pack - as can be seen on the map
2) Large items highlights
The bottom line:
I have covered approximately 1km of distance.
I count 127 items of rubbish as big as, or larger than a cigarette pack. That includes sofas, parts of beds, pillows, mops, and someone's school report.
That's approx 8 pieces of rubbish per linear metre; the average person's stride is approximately 30" ( so that's roughly 8 pieces of rubbish at every step.
Qualitatively speaking I experienced a bit of a shock. I have been living in Crouch End in rented accommodation whilst we are refurbishing our home and the difference is just staggering. As per Michael's point, this is an instance of the Broken Windows phenomenon - the ubiquity of rubbish sets a precedent that causes people to dump without a thought. It is disgusting and unlike any part of London I have witnessed before.
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