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A Ladder Residents' Association?

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John McMullan  by John McMullan 49 minutes ago


Hugh, is it time we started a Harringay residents association? I hate RAs because I think they direct funding to the well organised but we are one of the few places in Haringey without an RA and look at how we are treated compared to the Gardens. We could make sure that it was well funded (i.e. better funded than the traders association) and makes the right political donations (seeing as our %$£&ing votes don't seem to count).

Hugh  Reply by Hugh 29 minutes ago

If you're serious, why not start a discussion, but the key will be getting a group of folk together with the time and inclination to do as well as talk.

matt  Reply by matt 13 minutes ago

Define 'Harringay' geographically first John. Which residents would it serve? Hugh's HOL map includes the Gardens which already has a residents assoc. Would you go for the ladder roads, including Green Lanes, Wightman, Turnpike Lane and Endymion Rd that border the ladder roads?

The other issue for some is that setting up an RA may be seen to compete with the LCSP.

 

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Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on March 3, 2011 at 20:51
John, regarding the HOLSG and its aims. The LCSP is a RA where anyone can attend and contribute, there didn't seem to be a hierarchy of power, which was scared of a democratic committee making key decisions.
Permalink Reply by John McMullan on March 3, 2011 at 21:22

@Birdy, the LCSP, in the form of Ian Sygrave, is often and very obviously to me consulted in private on matters pertaining to our area. Ian organises the meetings, takes the minutes and runs the meetings and has done for as long as I can remember. This is not an RA.

Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 3, 2011 at 21:39

Okeedokee, I think mebbe it's best not to take pot shots at other RAs. Ian Sygrave puts a lot of time in to trying to make the area better. We should laud him for that. It's likely that most of us have reason to be thankful to him.

 

Permalink Reply by John McMullan on March 3, 2011 at 21:52

@Hugh, I was not having a pop at Ian, merely refuting Birdy's assertion that the LCSP was a democratically run resident's association. I agree with you, as we probably all do, about Ian's contributions and the effect on our lives.

Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 3, 2011 at 21:57
Great. Sorry if I got that wrong J. But I'm glad it's now abundantly clear.
Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on March 2, 2011 at 14:09

brothels open up in real houses

 

Will, for the past three years I just knew that HOL was missing a trick or two. What would an online cathouse be like? (Oh no, I knew I shouldn't mention missing cats!)

Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on March 3, 2011 at 21:35

I agree Ian does most of the work, as it seems in any voluntary group (I am secretary of the PVFC London SG as no one else can be bothered!) but as far as I am aware it is open for all to be part of the process and to be put up for committee positions which gives it credibility. Groups that don't open their doors to a democratic committee lack that credibility. A group that represents it's surroundings should be represented by it's surroundings, if it isn't you leave yourself wide open.

Many of these community 'private meetings' are attended by those who are there democratically, professionally or by their own appointment.

Permalink Reply by Liz on March 3, 2011 at 22:06

Would it not be better to examine some local models such as the Gardens RA and ask whether it is possible and desirable to replicate what they do. The LCSP handles the crime and grime very well but there is no interest in the social side of an RA as demonstrated so well by the Gardens RA. 

Given the large geographical spread of the Ladder compared to the Gardens and the existence of a number of groups already, would some kind of loose 'federation' of LCSP, Friends of Duckett's/ Fairland, Wightman RD N4/N8, maybe the PSAs of the two schools plus any Neighbourhood watch groups left meeting to compare notes and organise larger scale campaigns work? Just throwing it into the mix, happy to see it analysed and found wanting...

 

Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 3, 2011 at 22:13
There ya go unity. There ya go. The opportunity of bringing all parts of Harringay together was one of the motivating drivers behind my setting up HoL.
Permalink Reply by Liz on March 3, 2011 at 22:27
With new fangled things like Twitter, live blogging and video streaming, there is no reason why anyone can't be part of such a meeting even if they are unable to be there in person,...or am I just getting carried away now?
Permalink Reply by Hugh on March 3, 2011 at 22:34
Possibly, possibly not. As you know, I'm all for a big ole UStream or Cover-it-Live knees up and had been hoping to try it for a hustings last year. The time will come.
Permalink Reply by John McMullan on March 3, 2011 at 22:21

I would like to have my area taken over by the GRA. We are going to declare ourselves North Harringay (North of NHS) and await Andy's terms. Perfectly happy to support their bogus accident statistics and traffic calming schemes if they will support ours. 

On a serious note, sounds interesting... Parkside Malvern RA and Friends of Finsbury Park too? Why... we could all meet and discuss things on here...

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