Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Gay life IN Harringay
I am reliably told that there used to be a gay/bi bar in Green Lanes (next to the Salisbury?) in the early eighties. Would a gay bar in Harringay take off again? A friend of mine has money to invest and, with Catch22 in Turnpike Like set to close once the lease runs out, I think it could be a starter. Discuss.
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Permalink Reply by Justin Hinchcliffe on
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Well I never - the Manor House of all places. Went in there in the mid nineties and it was a God-forsaken hole! Sorry to hear about you friend, Stephen. Hope the killer (s) were caught? Have people been homophobically -- is that a word?- attacked in Green Lanes? Would people today feel safe hold hands with a same sex partner?
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Permalink Reply by Michael Anderson on
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We've lived on the Ladder since the early eighties as an openly gay couple and (after a bit of initial sniffing) have always been recognised as a couple by our neighbours (initally Greek Cypriot).
Infact the only homophobic incident we've had to deal with was Halloween about three years ago when a charming young woman (about 14) threw an egg at our door after shouting "queers" through the letterbox. I went out and was surrounded by neighbours who were tracking her down the street. I got to her house and her mum and dad were furious with her.
Stephen - I remember hearing about the murder. I'm sorry to hear it was a friend of yours. Did the culprits get caught?
On the holding hands issue - no, I don't feel confortable about it in this area. Maybe it's just me.
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I guess meeting a local Tory is not that dissimilar from going to China to see a Panda!
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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No, no John just enjoys a robust discussion with people who have different views from him...and beer
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Justin - I remeber you now. I used to live in Mount Pleasant Road very early eighties whene you were a conservative activist!
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Can't have been me, Michael. I was born in 1981...
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Permalink Reply by rahman on
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Colin Bannon said:Agree I won't hold hands around here, but then I never hold hands ;o) The only place that I would feel completely comfortable showing public affection outside an gay establishment is on Old Compton St., but that street is a gay establishment (full stop)
if you want to show PDA, you should just do it, so that people get used to it! (i would) i dont think there would be any danger in doing it in Harringay - well, at least during daylight hours? (its pretty dodgy for everybody when it gets late!)
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Permalink Reply by Danzigger on
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Colin Bannon said:
I'm really sorry you feel so threatened, Colin. But you should try to get out more (no pun intended!) How about: Upper Street, Shoreditch, Crouch End, Clapham and pretty much anywhere in the centre of town. I spend a lot of time in these areas, and while it's not a gay scene, there are lots of same sex couples quite at ease, and it's really not an issue. Go live a little!Agree I won't hold hands around here, but then I never hold hands ;o) The only place that I would feel completely comfortable showing public affection outside an gay establishment is on Old Compton St., but that street is a gay establishment (full stop)
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You know, not so long ago, interracial couples did not feel safe going out together until a whole lot of them started doing it and defied the idiots. Now, people dont bat an eyelid. Go on moony - if you want to see a change, you have to join the revolution! You know you want to! :)
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Moonsky said:
I think that's just the city isn't it? Doesn't matter if you're gay or straight, built or skinny: there are some rough people out there and there are times that you will feel threatened. London's a brilliant but a violent city. It's all tied up with the difference between rich and poor, and the way that city people leave cheek by jowl with each other.I'm a 6 foot, well built, gym going, mouthy perhaps, gay guy and I would not feel safe holding hands in Harringay. I don't feel safe sometimes just sitting on my seat on the No 29 bus so you can imagine how I feel about holding hands. That is not to say that I think most people in the area are violent or homophobic because they are not. However the people in the area who do cause trouble are at the most aggressive end of the scale. Equally I would not hold hands in Kingston either and it is not a violent area. I might hold hands if I felt that in the event of trouble there might be a bobby on the corner to come and sort things out. Sadly that's not the case and therefore I keep my hands to myself.
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Permalink Reply by sara wajid on
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Hadn't logged on for a while - brilliant discussion. A straight-friendly gay bar would work in my opinion - I often wonder why there isn't one given how gay our area is. Coincidentally i edit a website about gay history in london and am just starting a writing competition on the theme of queer history with chroma the queer literary journal. also i'd love to have an article about H's queer history - anyone want to write it? rates are a bit feeble£50 - but glad to help. hope this isn't considered inapproproately worky use of this forum - apols if so.
Sara
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