Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Harringay's not Harringay after all. It's Official
In trying to get support from our local concilllors to improve the description of our area on Haringey's website Councillor Canver has given a statement on the name of our area:
We've discussed and we have agreed to call the area Harringay Green Lanes and Too much emphasis on Harringay confuses everyone with the borough Haringey and I’m afraid it refers to the Harringay ward and excludes the Gardens and other target areas.
'other target areas' refers to what the map on the main page includes as Harringay that's neither Gardens nor Ladder.
I have written seeking clarification, but as yet have recieved no reply.
So, if people were confused about where Harringay is, perhaps it's no wonder. The Council wants to keep all variants of the name for the Borough. Now maybe, as the councillor says, you're all happy about that. For my money, it's not on.
Almost exactly 100 years ago the Municipal Borough of Hornsey tried to rename our area Haringey. The Harringay Ratepayers' Association mounted a campaign and successfully overturned that nonsense. Perhaps the zealous flame of our forebears no longer burns so brightly..................??
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Permalink Reply by Margaret Fowler on
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I actually came to live in this area 21 years ago entirely becaues of the ambience of Green Lanes. I don't think it was called Harringay then. I describe where I live to friends who visit me from other parts of the country as living off Green Lanes because they are too confused to get the nuances of the names. If I said I lived in Tottenham which I would prefer, there would be no hassle. Salisbury Road straddles the areas, I shop in Green Lanes but I also shop and use centres and libraries in West Green Rd, St Ann's Rd and Tottenham High Rd so am not a dedicated member of Harringay.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I think your experience is a direct result of what the Council have been doing progressively since 1965. I can assure you that where you live was defiantly Harringay till something like the 1980s when the dilution of the place name began in earnest.
I'm not clear why people should be so confused about the nuances of the names. Are people who visit Harringay and Haringey that frail? The people of places like Camden, Hackney and Islington seem to manage very well.
It's not any intrinsic issue related nuances of the names which confuses it the confusion that Haringey Council creates that counts.
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By the way for newer members, this all links back to my Are You Proud to Live in Harringay? post at the start of last December.
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Permalink Reply by phippsofacto on
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Howdy Hugh
Which Councillor was this? I'd be keen to write to them. Green Lanes has come a long way in the last few years, but it aint not wot I like about this here area.
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You'll notice that I've purposely not included the name of the councillor, lest doing so should antagonise them. My line is not to antagonise councillors unless there's a particular need. (It seems that I do so enough just by being here!)
As far as writing to a councillor about this issue is concerned, the Green Lanes Strategy Group is the key local body in the area. It is chaired by Nilgun Canver and since the councillors share what's going on I'm sure she'll be aware of the issue and also know where the mail came from.
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Permalink Reply by matt on
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Oh I think we should re-name the borough ... Harringay. Wonder if The People mag would be interested in running a little borough wide poll? :)
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Permalink Reply by Birdy_Too on
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If Harringay and Haringey is complicated, Stoke-upon-Trent is one of the six towns that make up the city of Stoke-on-Trent.
It'll always be Harringay for me and a big push in keeping our identity to the ruling class of this borough is much needed.
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The Journal for Hornsey and Crouch End seem to think Grand Parade is in Hornsey, so has Harringay gone already? 'Family in blaze rescue drama', features on the front page for Thursday, April 3, with a description of the fire above a shop in Hornsey.
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Ach, don't pay them any notice. They should know by now that Grand Parade never has been and never will be Hornsey. That's just laziness.
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Permalink Reply by Liz on
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Just used the Report a Problem facility on the council website and my road (Warham) came up as Hornsey on the address finder. 'Sigh'
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Permalink Reply by alistairj on
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I'm not sure the council can be blamed for this - almost certainly they will be using the Royal Mail postcode lookup and this used to return 'Hornsey' for Allison Road.
If you try the online version at http://postcode.royalmail.com/ , the results are abbreviated and don't show the area any more, just street + LONDON suggesting that the 'area/community' isn't that useful as far as postal deliveries are concerned nowadays.
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A postcode is not accurate to the place name of which you live. When I was growing up I lived in a village outside Stoke, Staffordshire and the nearest PO was in Shropshire. I had a SY postcode but lived in Staffordshire.
If I wanted to be up my A-hole I could say I lived in Hornsey as I live on Allison Road, but I don't, I live in Harringay.
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