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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

We will holding a Play Street on Pemberton tomorrow between 2-5pm. You are welcome to come along and bring the kids to play safely in a car free zone.

PS- Please remember to look after you kids, their safety is our concern, but your responsibility!

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Sorry, withhold, not without

This is a remarkable thread.

I'm most astounded that the person doing all the moaning about faddy daddies and yummy mummies and gentrification getting in the way of a motorist's right to do what they want also actually states their plebian credentials in their opening salvo by . . . um . . . mentioning Henri Cartier Bresson.

Up the people.

I'm disappointed I missed this MH. You know what roads were used for before widespread car ownership? Well mostly they were used by children to play in, as is evidenced by the many historical photographs of Harringay on here which I'm sure as a keen local you've had a look through (here for instance).

Road tax was abolished in 1937 exactly because of drivers with attitudes like yours. From Wikipedia:

"The accumulated Road Fund was never fully spent on roads (most of it was spent on resurfacing, not the building of new roads), and became notorious for being used for other government purposes, a practice introduced by Winston Churchill, when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer.[citation needed] In 1926, by which time the direct use of taxes collected from motorists to fund the road network was already opposed by many in government, the Chancellor Winston Churchill is reported to have said in a memo: "Entertainments may be taxed; public houses may be taxed...and the yield devoted to the general revenue. But motorists are to be privileged for all time to have the tax on motors devoted to roads? This is an outrage upon...common sense."[26]Hypothecation came to an end in 1937 under the 1936 Finance Act, and the proceeds of the vehicle road taxes were paid directly into the Exchequer. The Road Fund itself, then funded by government grants, wasn't abolished until 1955".

Drivers, with the combined financial lobbying of the motor industry (which some think can be as much as 25% of our economy) have driven children and other pedestrians from the roads in an act of outright theft, just because they could. The BBC have a great article on the swindle here.

I played in the road as a child, although admittedly a cul-de-sac. Drivers were far more respectful of seeing children playing cricket and football in the street and would often do three point turns to avoid upsetting our game doing the easier turn in the cul-de-sac.

I wish I knew who you were as this seems a bit like trolling it's so offensive.

No, no, John. An opposing opinion, even one that is strongly worded and stoutly defended is not trolling. You know that and as you can see from their avatar, this user has been with us a long time. Probably as long as you. 

Look, maybe I'm being a bit sensitive but "Oh for goodness sake man!" as a response to something I took a bit of time over, finding photographs and links to supporting material, is a bit off. You obviously read very little of what I posted, especially not the BBC article.

So you still haven't read it? You've not see than there is no link between the vehicle excise duty and funding for roads which is the only thing you were clinging onto other than "I OWN A CAR" which would entitle you to more of the road than 40 odd children (and their tax paying parents).

You've not seen that historically motor vehicle owners had no more right to the road than any of the others who were using it before they came along? In The Netherlands and Denmark, where there was no domestic motor vehicle manufacturing industry, they have promoted "shared space" in city streets for a long time. This is going to become more common, not less. There is nowhere you can move in the western world where you will not be subject to rising house prices and government backed reductions to inner city traffic. Have a nice life.

My coat! It does up both ways so it must be mine despite being modelled here by a boy. It was green, and was the only new item of clothing I got that year. (xref post on fly-tipping and waste.)

Down ! with this sort of thing 

Blast ! I'll have to send out for more popcorn :(

I'm giving MH 6/10 for this. It certainly captures the whining self-centred, self righteousness of Jeremy Clarkson's middle England very cruelly. However, isn't this a bit of an easy target for your satirical powers?

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