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I see where you are coming from, very liberal but not so when it comes to private individuals taking ownership for their lives and futures. Prison are to protect the public from criminals and also provide punishment but within prisions more could be done to reform prisioners. That in itself does not mean prision does not work. prison is not primarily to reform. More discipline in familes, schools and society will lead to less prisioners. More liberal values and the opposite is observed. Once a problem becomes big enough and problematic enough you will soon see creative solutions. I suppose the police does not work and we should replace them with social workers.
If prison works, why do so many reoffend?
Police investigation round here involves officers not looking beyond the end of their nose. That is probably one reason why there has been another similar incident on Muswell Hill where the person targeted was shot and found in hospital.
The police are not very careful about where they choose to discharge firearms either. Didn't they start a shoot out near a Tottenham park not too long ago?
Perhaps we should start taking guns off criminals and the police.
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