Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Hackney to Trial Raft of Road Closures to Stop Rat-Running
Hackney Council have proposed controversial new plans to trial closing junctions to through-traffic in 16 places around London Fields in east London, with the intention of stopping rat running, using residential side streets instead of main roads to avoid traffic, as well as reducing pollution and making cycling safer.
The project, which is due to begin with a three-month trial in January, will block roads with “attractive planters filled with winter flowers and shrubs” to “act as a filtering system to motor traffic” over an area of roughly a square kilometre between Richmond Road in the north and Scriven Road in the south, and Lansdowne Drive in the east and Haggerston Road in the west.
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Oh, what a boon for the gentrifiers in this area.
Although popular, these schemes inevitably cause more traffic on the radials and higher levels of emissons on those routes and also cause more residents driving around in circles to get out of the maze situation. But hey, who cares? Only riff raff live on main roads, don't they.?
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Permalink Reply by Grant on
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Where is the evidence that 'these schemes inevitably cause more traffic on the radials and higher levels of emissons on those routes'? From a quick look at DfT traffic counts, I cannot see any uplifts in traffic on main roads around the time that various residential road closures were implemented in Haringey (indeed main road traffic in general appears to be in long-term decline).
Weirdly, this film just popped up on my Twitter timeline about the counterintuitive truth that taking away space for cars can impr...
Can't say I've noticed 'more residents driving around in circles to get out of the maze situation' in the few places I've visited with area-wide filtering of through traffic. Grateful if you could let me know where you've seen this occur, if that is happening it could well be a sign of a poorly implemented scheme, rather than the concept itself being flawed.
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Permalink Reply by Robert Pike on
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Would be good to have this in Cornwall Road to curtail the boy racers and white van men hammering through from Phillip Lane to St Ann's Rd. I would be interested to see the results of this study. It would be easy to read into an experiment like this as disadvantaging the dominant and most vocal street user, transferring traffic elsewhere and helping gentrification. This is why a policy like this in isolation could fall down. Hopefully it is linked with other proposals for routes where traffic will increase.
Meanwhile lets consider the positive aspects - safer residential streets which promote more than just driving and parking; making walking and cycling more attractive; creates space for hard/soft landscaped spaces like here in the Gardens. The roads around London Fields would benefit greatly from this.
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Permalink Reply by Laura on
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Hugh
Interesting. That's Dalston, or part of Dalston. Could you link to relevant pages of LB Hackney website?
many thanks
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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I picked up on the initiative from a cycling organisation. I have no link I'm afraid.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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I think this may be the article.
Interestingly it quotes clashing views among residents - which echo points made here.
"Neighbours are pitted against each other – often in the same street – vociferously accusing one another of sneakily pressuring the council to increase their own house prices at others’ expense.
“It’s divisive and snobbish to pressurise the council to set yourselves apart, to increase your own house prices which are already some of the most expensive in the borough at the expense of everyone else’s health and wellbeing.”
Architect Helene Dahm Gullaksen, who is based in De Beauvoir Road, added: “Hackney Council has only produced very inadequate data to support the plans and say full traffic counts won’t even be ready until the end of this week."
In the same article I found it fascinating to read the comment by about Robert Goodwill MP who has as Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Transport is quoted as being "blown away" after seeing Danish cycling facilities on a visit to Copenhagen. I'd have thought the Minister responsible would be a little better informed about this.
Without being a Minister or even an MP you can easily find this out. Utterly pathetic.
http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/12/copenhagen-jan-gehl-and-contes...
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Exactly, it's the first step to 'Gated Communities' The next step is to stop nasty pedestrians (predominantly in 'white' sneakers) passing the front door.
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If less noise, less pollution, fewer HGVs shaking my entire house at 5am and far safer streets for my children equals gentrification then sign me up to Team Gentrification. Not sure there's any causal link between addressing rat running and gated communities, though. Have you got any evidence of this anywhere? I'd be surprised.
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Indeed, and worth remembering that the nearby De Beauvoir area was closed to through traffic 40 years ago, that's not a 'gated community'.
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I don't know of any examples of people using traffic controls to create a gated community in the UK - do you?
The point is about vehicles, and it is very well established that reducing available road space reduces car travel. In a dense city the only alternative to restricting traffic volumes is knocking down large areas of housing to build lots of 6 lane radial & ring roads.
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I vaguely remember a YouTube video about a fake warden asking drivers from a private gated estate to show him their permit to enter the public highway.
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The point is about vehicles, and it is very well established that reducing available road space reduces car travel.
So what has that to do with reducing the space only on certain roads in certain areas? If that assertion were true, all main roads would be narrowed too. That isn't the case. Unfortunately, this has more to do with affluent, well educated, generally obnoxious young couples with enormous baby carrying tanks, agitating to increase their property prices.. and nowt much else.
As I said before, we all know that only riff-raff live on main roads.
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