Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
At it again...neighbours rubbish
It's happening again, neighbours who have filled their bins are using mine as their overflow. This is just not fair. Where am I supposed to put my rubbish when they've finished filling my bin? Dump it in binbags that Veolia won't take?
I really think that the council and Veolia should be able to help me on this one as I'm the victim here. Instead they both wash their hands of it and say it's my problem. I could, and probably will have to, approach these neighbours (again) and have a word with them about it. But that's going to cause some animosity and strained relations and to tell you the truth I'm getting really fed up with it all. I shouldn't be in this situation. Lets face it, the new rules (including no binbags collected and no bags moved to get to the bins to empty them) are what's causing all this. Did they really think this through? Didn't they ever consider that this would happen?
BTW, this is a different neighbour than last time. This one has been told more than once about using my bin.
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Permalink Reply by Madeline on
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Oh what a coincidence. Saturday night and my upstairs neighbour threw out a binbag from the top of the steps. Of course it burst. I caught her in the passage and told her she couldn't do that, that the binmen wouldn't take it and wouldn't move it to empty her (full) bin. She just shrugged her shoulders and said "what else am I supposed to do?" I've told her, very politely, many times what's supposed to be done.
Today though she was ringing my doorbell as she'd forgotten her key. As I let her in I took the post from the letter box and included with it was the Haringey/Veolia leaflet giving collection dates and instructions as to what in which bin. I gave one to her telling her what it's subject was and her comment was... "Have a nice day". That'll be going straight into the bin then.
I am now collecting my photographic evidence (mainly of upstairs rubbish) and am going to send it to one of my local councillors with the view to making an enemy of my neighbours. Because this is what will surely happen.
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It's the whole family, they all seem to have the same attitude.
This is a copy of one of the notes I sent to them:-
Rubbish Collections
You may not be aware that there are problems with Veolia and the rubbish collection service that they provide. Basically, Health and Safety have gone mad as to what they will and will not take.
They will not take non-domestic rubbish.
They will not take a bin that is over filled and has the lid open.
They will not take bin bags.
They will not move any obstruction to get to the bin, ie. bin bags or any other dumped rubbish (such as washing machine parts)
Bins must be placed near the front of the property for collection.
Recently I did a walk-about with two of our local councillors and a council worker responsible for overseeing such problems. On this walk it was noted the amount of bin bags piled up in this yard, nearly a dozen I think. These were the bags that you said that you were going to arrange to be taken. That didn't happen.
Each time you put these bags out you effectively prevent me from getting my bike out. This has meant that on more than one occasion I've had to call a cab to take me to and from the shops where normally I would have used the bike instead.
You may be wondering then about where your rubbish has been going? It's Mick, he's been 'recycling' it so that I can get to my bike and also to clear up the mess and get rid of the smell.
But this can not continue. He's an old man heading for his 70's, not in good health and registered blind. He can't keep humping your bin bags about. I can't do it either as I have recently been diagnosed as chronically ill, (I knew I was sick, now it's confirmed). You must take responsibility for the disposal of your rubbish from now on and respect the fact that we share the front yard.
Our collection day is Wednesday and is bi-weekly for normal rubbish, weekly for recycled. This week is a both collection week.
For your information you can take any extra rubbish to one of the council sites the nearest of which is:-
Hornsey Reuse and Recycling Centre
35 High Street
Hornsey
N8 7QBMonday to Friday: 8.30am to 4pm
Saturday and Sunday: 9am to 4pm
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Age should be irrelevant here, it's about education and consideration. The parents should teach their children what is acceptable and what is not in all aspects of life. As it is, if their parents are seen to not care, then why should they? My neighbours upstairs seem to have a "if I can't see it, (and from upstairs they can't) then it doesn't exist". And when they go out they have a tunnel vision which means they can't see to their left and the piles of stinking binbags that are leaking all over the small front yard. In essence, they couldn't give a damn.
FYI. A mother with two children, one 16/17 and one 20/21, old enough to take responsibility for their actions and how they impact on others.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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I honestly sympathise but I would remind you that the people who drew up the ten commandments used half of them to license their God, one each for murder, adultery and stealing and TWO for be nice to your neighbour. It is more important that you get on with them than they do as you/we wish.
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Permalink Reply by Abi on
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Not thinking of that as an excuse, more an explanation - I know (frankly) how bad I was about this sort of thing when I was a student and never stayed anywhere for long.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Please, Madeline, don't take time posting online or waiting to collect evidence. Simply contact your local councillors asap. The quicker you do so, the faster they can try to help.
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I have already contacted one of my local councillors with a short summary of the problem.
The reason that I'm posting on here is to make public the problems surrounding this new contract. On paper it might look good but in reality it's not working and whilst they can sit in their nice rubbish free offices and probably go home to a nice tidy front garden, some of us don't have that option and it's causing stress and for me, strained relations with my neighbours.
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Permalink Reply by Alison P on
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That sounds horrible. Are they tenants or do they own the property? If the former, is that another avenue (ie complaining to the landlord). NOT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE TO of course. If they own it, is it leasehold, as they can have various conditions attached.
So sorry you have to go through this. Your letter made me fume.
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I'm not very happy with the way my local councillor has dealt with this problem. Basically all she's done is to contact my housing manager who wants me to name the people upstairs, (shouldn't she know their name already?) so that she can send them an official letter, (disposing of rubbish properly and not to toss cigarette butts down into my yards) pointing these items out in their tenancy agreement. Now that's going to make me really popular with them, isn't it. I was rather hoping for a more subtle approach. And it doesn't address the problems with next door, (non-council tenants) or the commuters who are also adding to the problems. It's not fair to just target the one perpetrator, cause antagonism between me and them and allow those others to continue to use my bin and front yard.
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And again. This time a different neighbour from four houses down. I saw him on my CCTV come into my yard and place a carrier bag of something in my bin. What is it about my bin? It turns out it was bicycle parts. Would Veolia take these? Or would they refuse to empty my bin because of this? Irrelevant now though. The bag and it's contents are now sitting on his own doorstep.
As a matter of interest this was the day after our rubbish collection. Perhaps Veolia have already refused to take the items.
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Permalink Reply by Anette on
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Unbelievable... I wonder what he'll think when he finds his crap back on his doorstep though. That must have made you snigger.
I would now consider a padlock if I were you. Inconvenient, yes, but at least people will get the message, and after a while they'll hopefully stop gravitating towards your bin (which must be truly amazing to attract this much attention!)
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