Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Waste and Recycling Review – Your views wanted
I am on the Environment and Housing Scrutiny Panel this year and one of our reviews will be on waste and recycling, in particular the fortnightly collection scheme introduced earlier this year. Phase 3 will be introduced in the remaining areas of Tottenham in October and the purpose of this review is to identify what can be learnt from phases 1 and 2, what has worked, what hasn’t worked, and help identify how the council can encourage greater compliance and behavioural change among certain resident groups to reduce residual waste and encourage more recycling and whether the new arrangements are providing value for money for the council and residents.
The panel will be gathering evidence from a number of sources and my part is engaging with local residents to identify areas where there are still problems, areas where the new arrangements are working well and any other issues such as whether the new arrangements are creating an eyesore on our residential streets. I will be looking round the ward to identify issues and it would be very useful if residents let me have their views, particularly as these new arrangements have had a little time to bed in and settle down. The panel is also hoping to do some site visits as part of the evidence gathering process.
Scrutiny has always been an area where both parties work incredibly well together and I hope that by working together on this review we can avoid some of the issues that have dogged the initial phases of the roll out.
Your views would be very welcome here or to me at karen.alexander.haringeylibdems@gmail.com by Tuesday 11th September 2012 please to allow time for the evidence and views to be collated.
Tags for Forum Posts: new recycling bins, veolia
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Permalink Reply by Hugo Read on
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Not too daft at all Hugh - it's a great idea and something I've been toying with myself. I'm happy to help with Pemberton if I get someone else to do the road with me.
I think what we'd need to establish is the 'rules', if they have any, governing what configurations can and can't be done. Then we could make a form with choices that were feasible. Great idea.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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So, that's three roads. Even if we only did three roads, that'd be potentially significant. It would be nice if we could find another person to help on each of those roads (and others) via the site. Failing that, I could probably find A N Other offline.
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I could also email all site members from Pemberton, Hewitt and Frobisher with an invite, if necessary.
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Yes, I think we need two people per road. Why don't we try to do it properly though and design a mini questionnaire/form based on feasible options and try and get two people from at least say a dozen roads. I'm happy to help with a questionnaire but I can't do it until October probably. This month is pretty crazy.
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Yes absolutely do it properly - what I meant by "We would need to check what is and isn't possible and exactly what would be required for the Council to act to act. We'd then go armed with materials illustrating the options and the necessary forms to take people's orders there and then."
October sounds sensible.
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So that this sub-thread doesn't get lost, I've copied it to a new thread over here.
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Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on
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Yep happy to help do an audit for bins, but if there is to be a 'winter of discontent' we may need to hold on to the larger capacity, or if we get snowed out for a week or two this year ?
(It's been suggested bins be collected from the ends of the roads during icy conditions, that would need residents to coordinate that- at own risk of slipping, the council wouldn't do it anyway.)
Is there a COBRA bin crisis committee? ...I' sure the council has a 'what if' scenario list.
Personally I was upset at the take over of my front yard by wheelie bins, I now know I could downsize my
waste bin, and keep the larger recycling bin. Aesthetically the two smaller bins symmetry is appealing and easier to maneuver. Harringay's recycling capacity does leave Europe looking a little inadequate.
The commercial rubbish collected from the side of 533 Green Lanes is an issue, and upsets residents on Hewitt, there has been increased unregulated residency on the muse/ rear shop access, off from 130 Hewitt Rd, these need council officers to visit and propose a reliable waste collection service/system for these guys.
Car parking on the muse/rear access of 533 Green Lanes also makes access for emergency services and waste collection difficult, legible addresses for the muse would make it easier for the council to deal with in stead of rear of 547F green lanes or 132,134 Hewitt Rd,which is the rear of 130 Hewitt Rd we could call it Hewitt Muse?
Here are a tally of addresses on muse: rear of 533C Green Lanes, 132, 134 Hewitt Rd?, (recently converted/ invented,) (previously a security firm for the council,) rear of 533 Green Lanes (restaurant access,) rear of 511 Green Lanes (restaurant access,) rear of 549 Green Lanes (carpet shop access,) rear of 547G Green Lanes, rear of 547F Green Lanes, rear of 545 Green Lanes, (phone shop/ property management Co.,) and rear of 543 Green Lanes, how is their waste managed ? some buildings are independent from the shops, ie residences in separate buildings, previously shop storage out buildings.
Waste collection has also been overflowing from two commercial trolley bins, with an arson incident that could have burnt down the near by residence on the south side of Hewitt at No 130, singeing the wall of the property, which has a bedroom which is built over the 'muse.'
I'm sure this problem is reflected down other muse residences on the ladder, who need reliable collection and responsible waste disposal, but without a solid system to deal with it its problematic. It has been reported and nothing long term seems to happen, resulting in dumping, although it seems clear today apart from two tins of oil/ash and four black domestic bags of waste.
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Permalink Reply by byl999 on
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Dear Karen,
I live in the Seven Sisters area ~ a very run down and grotty area, more so than the lovely Ladder. I would like to say that the bin situation around here is awful. Not only are there overflowing bins and rubbish all over the place, the whole area has been shrouded in the stench of rotting matter. As literally every member of Haringey borough has already made clear, both bins need collecting EVERY week.
I also want to make a complaint about VEOLA themselves. After their collections, huge trails of rubbish and (if a recycling day) waste paper/recycling matter all strewn over the street and walkways. I'm not exaggerating, it makes my street look a tip. VEOLA seem to me, to be very careless about their task which is to take AWAY our rubbish , not leave it all over the pavement and roads!!! I am not impressed by them at all and feel very sad that my (seemingly overpriced) council tax goes towards paying for 1. an unreliable and 2-weekly service and 2. careless workers who leave rubbish all over the road.
Not happy.
Along with pretty much everyone else in the borough.
Please take note, seeing as you've taken the time to ask.
Kind regards,
Lara
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Permalink Reply by Duguneek on
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Give the children an introduction to council ways as part of the curriculum and they can teach their parents etc about when the collections are meant to occur- they remember random facts like that sometimes and maybe they can teach Veolia their timetable too. O bless em but can you show us the spec attached to the contract so we know if (Veolia) they are doing what we pay them to do?
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