Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Dogs in parks proposed restrictions
Are people aware that there is a bill being proposed to enforce dog owners to keep their dogs in a lead at all times in certain Harringey parks. Responsible dog owners will be penalised for the a actions of irresponsible dog owners. We need to be vigilant that this doesn't go through. There is a page on Facebook - Responsible Owners Against Restrictions
Tags for Forum Posts: consultation, dangerous dogs, dog control orders, dog on leads, dog walking, dogs
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Permalink Reply by Paul Harvey on
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I think we could get the dogs to train the foxes to eat the rats who've eaten all the pigeons... That'll keep the dogs occupied long enough for the children to have a quick play in the park during fox-training time
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Permalink Reply by 3v7qs2qyuj96c on
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he he he great idea
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Permalink Reply by Ian on
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There are many laws in place that is difficult to enforce and also not generally known or understood by the public but that does not mean that new laws cannot be introduced because it will be difficult to enforce. The bottom line is that however much we want to humanise our pets, Dog's are animals, Dog's can bite unexpectedly and Dog poo is common in parks. I am always on the look out for Dog poo trying to safe guard my little children when playing in the fields of parks etc. I would welcome some Dog free parks knowing that you don't have to be constantly vigilant about suspect looking dog's and the mesh that is left behind by irresponsible owners. As society marches forward in the persuit of ever more civilisation we need to understand that this march also marches ever more away from the natural world of what used to be. The more civilised we become the more unnatural we tend to do things, therefore as we become a more civilised society we naturally need to have areas of our lives that are distinct and separate from the animal world around us.
If I don't mind a dog coming over to smell by kids then I can choose to go to a park that allows dogs, otherwise I will go to a dog free park that has better kept grounds, better play area as a result of segregating dogs and providing a park service suitable for the enviroment and it's patrons. I also think we need to crack down on these bad dog accesory culture and a dog free park would also help. Big signs outside the parks saying no dogs, £200 fine etc and it would soon stop. We all have mobile phones and a quick call to the police would soon sort it out. Where do I sign the pro dog free park petition. and by the way....I had a dog in my house hold when I was a child but a dog had it's place in our house hold and it needs to have it's place in society to. A dog does not have human rights and access to everything that we enjoy as humans.
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The argument isn't about dogs having more rights than humans. It is about my right as a fellow human to exercise my dog in a civil society. Dog controls in adequate proportions of which a ban of dogs from parks is not.
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I don't think there will ever be dog free parks or should be dog free parks but dog free areas in the parks. that already exists in some parks (priory park has dog free philosophers garden and ally pally area above middle path where dogs need to be on the lead) As a dog owner and a parent I do support the dog free spaces within the parks as there a space for everyone. When I go out with my daughter and her friends for picnics we enjoy dog free spaces as I am fully aware that people will not always pick up dog poo and it is nice not to have to worry. so there is a solution that can be good for both. obviously there will always be a parent with the small dog trying to "smuggle" it in as in playgrounds but even as I am a dog owner I do disagree about it. If it is dog free it should be dog free. we can all walk our dogs in separate time and take kids out without dogs in tow. There is need for good time management on parent/dog owners time and space management in parks. Most people will respect the law and see logistics. I can see that most people are for reasonable solution that can be good for all so lets try and achieve it without unnecessary "witch hunt ".
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ADJ,
I totally agree.
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Does anyone remember when Haringey Council tried to do this in the 1980's? They underestimated the strength of feeling from the dog walking community. Protest groups formed in every park in Haringey. WE WON THEN AND WE WILL WIN AGAIN! We walk in the parks everyday whatever the weather, we know everyone and everyone knows us. We know the local children because they come and play with our dogs! The local police use us as their eyes and ears, we have been on scene for many crimes and have been able to alert police - including a SERIOUS crime, where the dog walkers had identified the perpetrator to the police within 24 hours just by talking to each other about the incident. Let the police - police park behaviour not Haringey council!
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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Those who posted here might want to be aware that the consultation on this is now live.
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Let's make it simple and give more rights to humans. A dog on a short lease does not need a muzzle. A dog operating within a designated and fenced dog zone does not need a muzzle. Free running dogs and dogs on long leads needs muzzles.
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The problem is disabled people like myself and the elderly and other people that have walking difficulties, we exercise our dogs by throwing a ball, my dog would never bite anyone or anything including my heavy handed vet. I have lived and worked in this borough for 36 years - I do not claim any benefits - I have no children or any other family putting any strain on the income I pay into this society with my taxes. The only thing that I have in my life that is important to me is my beloved dog and her well being, and the only service I use daily is my visits to my park. There are three zones in my park that are designated dog free, what about equality and diversity and my rights for a change. There are a lot of people and things happening that I don't like in my area and my park but I am tolerant and polite and mind my own business.
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I absolutely agree Pam. Dogs need to run around and play fetch and play with other dogs off lead. On the lead they're not able to do that and it would just be cruel to them and impossible for me. I also don't have children, work full time and having my dog has benefited my health in many ways. He is a very much loved member of my family and whilst I do not tell parents how to raise their children, I equally expect them to tolerate my lifestyle. My dog is very friendly, playful and well behaved, unlike some children I have encountered. Some little boy (of around 10) through stones at us recently for absolutely no other reason than walking past him (on the other side of the road), yet I don't request for children to be banned from parks or public places. Most parks have at least three dog free areas, from picnic zones, park spaces within the parks and children's playgrounds. Why isn't that enough for some people?
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