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Giant Railway Maintenance Sheds at New River, Hornsey (Heartlands)

Have just received this info from Cllr Robert Gorrie on this matter which explains that Network Rail unlikely to submit a planning application until March. This is separate to the giant cleaning shed development on Wightman Road.

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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on January 12, 2011 at 16:39

hmm . . . email from robert gorrie to robert gorrie: I suppose all pols do end up talking to themselves.

 

No, we have no plans for a giant cleaning shed development on Wightman Road. Width forbids.

Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on January 12, 2011 at 18:15

The from/To device is used by many sending group emails to disguise the ID of recipients, not just Robert Gorrie. I may have got the exact location incorrect but as a resident of Hornsey I am unfamiliar with every street along the Ladder (as non residents of the Campsbourne estate may be unaware of every road here). Nevertheless there IS a planning application for a large railway carwash type installation and certainly some residents nearby were sent Planning Application consultation letters by the council. This has previously been posted on HoL as follows

Hornsey Rail Depot Planning Application ( again ) Posted by John D on September 20, 2010 at 5:09pm in Community Information & News  Haringey have circulated notice of planning application HGY/2010/1644 which is a reprise of the proposal for the provision of an external train cleaning facility. There are obvious concerns about noise and disturbance resulting from use affecting houses on the west of Wightman Road.

Written observations to be submitted by 11 October. You are invited to contact Michelle Bradshaw on 0208 489 5280 for further information.

 

http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=220939

 

and an extract about this

 

Land at Hornsey Depot, Hampden Road N8 0HE

Mr Gareth ReesFirst Capital ConnectEastbourne Terrace, London, W2 6LG

Mr Andrew BarronOve Arup & Partners Ltd, 13, Fitzroy Street, London, W1T 4BQ

Realignment of 2 x railway tracks, and provision of external train cleaning facility including central raised access platform, canopy, lighting and overhead line equipment.

 

Perhaps you are not close enough to the this development to be affected and therefore were not written to? But as there has been some general confusion (deliberate by the authorities perhaps?) there has been a deal of communication about the developments in Hornsey, especially the New River estate which will be severely impacted by the maintenance shed development.

Hope I have clarified sufficiently.

Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on January 12, 2011 at 18:20
This development also posted

Rail Depot, behind Wightman Road - Planning Application

The planning application for this closes tomorrow, Wednesday should anyone want to comment. This is a small proposal that the Network Rail one at Hornsey but could have implications for those living by the railway.

Both previous posts refer, as i did to Wightman Road - so too narrow or not, unless objected to by residents, it may well be constructed there. 

Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on January 12, 2011 at 19:24
ho - hum.
Permalink Reply by John D on January 12, 2011 at 22:50
But the Planning Application for the Hornsey Depot cleaning shed has been withdrawn.
Permalink Reply by John McMullan on January 12, 2011 at 19:45

As long as they do a good job (and I'd be interested to hear how much noise residents of Wightman Rd get from the existing sheds), I just don't see a problem. This was for Thameslink to have longer trains right?

Permalink Reply by John D on January 16, 2011 at 13:26

The Network Rail developments at Hornsey Depot and Coronation Sidings are back on track. ( sorry )

There are to be two public information sessions at the West Indian Cultural Centre, just about opposite the north end of Wightman Road, on:

Friday 28th January 16.00 - 20.00

Saturday 29th January 10.00 - 14.30.

 

The announcement also says you can find out more about the projects at www.networkrail.co.uk/thameslink and you can email questions to thameslink@networkrail.co.uk or call a helpline on 08457 11 41 41.

Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on January 16, 2011 at 16:31

Thanks John D - but are these sessions for the New River Maintenance Sheds (rather than Wightman Rd cleaning shed)?

If for New River i wonder why the First Capital Connect person at the Area Assembly had no idea when and how residents would be consulted.

 

Permalink Reply by John D on January 24, 2011 at 22:08
Apparently they are for both.
Permalink Reply by JackRuby on January 16, 2011 at 20:46
As the Council is so keen to promote public transport I assume that they will be supporting this proposal. Surely they can't be two faced enough to clamp down on motorists whilst at the same time having sustainability and public transport growth targets.  Not supporting this proposal would from a Council policy perspective seem contradictory to say the least.
Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on January 20, 2011 at 20:39

Update - invite letters about information sessions have gone out from Network Rail to Councillors, M.P.s and heads of various pressure groups. But not to potentially affected residents.

My email to Network Rail (which i copied to as many as i have email for) is attached for info.

interesting to note that the thameslink@networkrail.co.uk email address does not work - bounced back as non existent!

Will report back any response i receive

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Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on January 24, 2011 at 20:14

The reply is

Ms Ramm, I can only apologise that you have not received a personal invite to the consultation session regarding Hornsey depot.  We have used the address details provided by the council and have used these to send our letters; we have additionally put advertisements in the local papers. I have now added your address onto our database so that you will receive any further correspondence. Once again my sincere apologies and I hope to see you on Friday or Saturday. Kind regards, Amie Williams Community Relations Advisor

My thoughts on this?


This reply in no way explains who has been informed and why residents of Campsfield Rd have not routinely been notified. I must have missed the notices in local press! And what "list" is the council using? One with very few names on it I expect


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