Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Uk Forests for sale?
Tags for Forum Posts: Environment, Government, Privatisation, Forests, forests
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Well this forest sell off will cause a temporary glut so Tory's with money will be able to pick some up cheap (why on earth would you DUMP these things and devalue them? Oh, yeah.).
I found some more info here... although it's of a commercial nature.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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“It is very common with individuals or with States, when they run into financial difficulties, to find that they have to sell some of their assets. First the Georgian silver goes. Then all that nice furniture that used to be in the saloon. And then the Canalettos go. And then the most tasty morsel, the most productive of all - having got rid of Cables & Wireless, and having got rid of the only part of the railways that paid, and having got rid of the part of the steel industry that paid, and having sold this and that - the great thing of the monopoly telephone system came up on the market. They were like the two Rembrandts that were still left. And they went.
Now we are promised in the Queen’s Speech a further sale of anything that could be scraped up. You can’t sell the coal mines, I’m afraid, because nobody would want them.
But in order to convey this ingenious resource – not so much to the market as to the auctioneer – we’ve invented a most wonderful and new, very ungrammatical word called 'privatisation'. And by giving a kind of colour of conformity to Conservative principles – that things should be run by private enterprise - it has got away with the selling of assets on a colossal scale.”
(Lord Stockton 1985)
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Winds of change wafting through the woods the Enclosures Acts missed.
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Surely you are mistaken, John D. Not with his default position.
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Permalink Reply by StephenBln on
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Will Hoyle wrote: And any way why do we want the government owning anything?
Once again you seem to be a bit confused: 'A Government' is a body of politicians that comes together for up to five years. It doesn't 'own' anything. It is a managing agent.
The Forests belong to the Country, the State, the People (difficult to define in a country with a medieaval unwritten constitution) and IMO shouldn't be sold off for short term gain to the first party friend and donor that comes along.
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Permalink Reply by Maddy on
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http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/property/the-joys-of-owning-yo...
Here's a very interesting article about buying woodland - particularly the last paragraph about the tax breaks involved. (I have some wealthy friends who bought a wood for precisely this reason.)
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Your link got a bit scrambled, Maddy. It's this.
Thanks. As you say, very interesting.
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Permalink Reply by Omotn on
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jan/07/high-speed-rail-tree...
2 million trees (if they are ever planted) in what may become a linear forest when the project is abandoned.
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Permalink Reply by Lesley Ramm on
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Have just signed teh online petition to object to our public owned forests being sold off to highest private bidder.
i do not believe any government who does this has either the intent or will (or even the ability) to prevent the new owners from doing just whatever they want once they own it.
once flogged off we will have no say in how they are "managed" - it will be too late by then.
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http://opinion8.ning.com/forum/topics/incipient-paranoia?xg_source=...
I also have a view about the means by which the quangos are being abolished. I think the Forestry Commisiion is one of these.
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Permalink Reply by Danzigger on
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The Woodland Trust is also running a campaign. Should you be interested, they have a very brief explanation of their concerns here
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