Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Betting Shops debate this evening in Parliament
I've secured an adjournment debate this evening for the House of Commons chamber on Planning Law and Bookmakers in Haringey.
There is no definitive start time as the House doesn't operate by the clock, but I'm told it is likely to start just after 7pm. I've been allotted half an hour and there will be a response by a Communities and Local Government Minister.
Whilst it is obviously a Licensing problem as well as a Planning one, the Minister will be from the DCLG so I will focus my remarks specifically on the planning aspects and the upcoming decentralisation and localism bill.
I'm told by BBC Parliament that they will cover it, so please tune in if you get the chance.
I'll post my speech in full up on my website tomorrow, please give me some feedback.
David
There is no definitive start time as the House doesn't operate by the clock, but I'm told it is likely to start just after 7pm. I've been allotted half an hour and there will be a response by a Communities and Local Government Minister.
Whilst it is obviously a Licensing problem as well as a Planning one, the Minister will be from the DCLG so I will focus my remarks specifically on the planning aspects and the upcoming decentralisation and localism bill.
I'm told by BBC Parliament that they will cover it, so please tune in if you get the chance.
I'll post my speech in full up on my website tomorrow, please give me some feedback.
David
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Agree with John on all of that. So, Steve, read up on all that has gone before on this site - and,btw, shouldn't it be 'entaxei kai yiasou' ?
On David Lammy's fine adjournment debate speech,* I can only agree with MP Gilbert's hint about 'remorse' but to put it more positively: "There is indeed more joy in Heaven and Harringay over one sinner who repents over the 2005 Gambling Act than over ninety-nine who never needed to repent."
Unfortunately it'll take more than one ex-Minister's repentance or one Minister's localism bill to make gambling dens sui generis or to persuade LBH to tangle with this 'Clause 4' direction.
* And yes, gratified to see both Peter and Ian given a well deserved mention in the Commons.
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Frankly, I can see little resemblance between a betting shop and a pub but even if there were, I think we would be unhappy about seeing seven pubs in a 50yard stretch of Green Lanes. This is not Rose Street, Edinburgh. And I'm not happy with the idea of specific ethnic groups congregating in different bookies (or pubs ) - sounds like gang territories to me.
Immigrant but it never seemed to matter.
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Gosh John M, John D & OAE- heady stuff.
I think I will leave it there- not really one of those agree to disagree moments. Some interesting points made by all three of you- proof if proof be needed that the subject matter does warrant a proper discussion. Agree that polemics and party politics may get in the way of a consensus being arrived at as to how Harringay can change for the better. Still a tad on the concerned side as to where we are going with this campaign and other campaigns of a similar type. We may not intend to scapegoat but in the end we do
ps You shouldn't always take everything that people write on this site literally and there should always be allowance made for a certain poetic licence- and a waspish sense of humour. This is half the fun of entering such forums . Great site. Love the gallery in particular. Makari na eisai oli kala ( Wish you all the best)
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....oh and I almost forgot.
Clive C re your enthusiastic person who shouted into the bookies for the punters to come out and left them cowering inside....... an action to me that smacked of being just plain wrong. Tut tut. I was very surprised that you typed that up- no apparent censure of the person concerned- almost delighting in the absurdity of the situation.
ps Love your contributions.
Right I will definitely leave it there now.....honest
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter on
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Steve, in respect of the poor punters sheltered inside, I would expect you to say there should always be allowance made for a certain poetic licence.
The woman inviting punters to come outside was about the only light-hearted moment in a march that casual observers could be forgiven for thinking was a march of the Socialist Workers Party, who very much have their own agenda.
The managers of the bookies will doubtless have noted the prominence of this tiny political party. The impression will be that the opponents of betting shop proliferation are authoritarian and supporters of the gambling industry are middle-of-the road, libertarian. This impression should not be allowed to stand.
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........only testing for humourlessness Clive.
Authoritarian v libertarian. Mmmm. Interesting take. I note that a number of young'uns and their parents had call to leave 1st time replies this week- 'pot calling the kettling black'.
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