Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Wood Green's Tokyo crossing ready to rock
A new diagonal pedestrian crossing will become operational this month at one of Wood Green's busiest junctions.
The crossing will be in operation from 3pm on 26 November, enabling commuters to cross directly from Wood Green underground station to the corner diametrically opposite, adjacent to Morrison's.
Haringey Council say that the crossing should not significantly affect the traffic flow as only a small adjustment to crossing times is necessary for the scheme to work.
The crossing has been built with £400K from TfL to improve pedestrian accessibility at this busy junction.
The scheme includes:
* diagonal pedestrian crossing from Wood Green Station
* stop lines for cyclists on all approaches to the signal junction
* improvements to the street lighting at the junction
* new pavement surfaces at selected areas
* extension of taxi parking on the High Road
* additional cycle parking
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Permalink Reply by WightmanPaul on
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Does anyone know whether the cameras which are used to monitor bus lanes and box junctions could/will be used to monitor the cyclists protected green areas at junctions? What would the offence be for entering the area? What would the penulty be?
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Thanks Jono, but I'm still not clear if an offence has invariably been committed if a vehicle is in the green zone when the light is red. Also, if there is a right turn at the junction can I enter to turn right - ala box junction?
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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As far as I understand it the way the law is written makes these areas unenforceable. Thank you very much THEAA and THERAC.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on
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Why not write in to the Council and ask? Then post the reply here.
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Permalink Reply by Hugo Read on
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I'm such a sad geek I just LOVE a diagonal crossing. Not just out of geekery though; they are incredibly practical and massively improve the pedestrian flow at junctions. They've had a fantastic one in San Francisco for years that I used to rave about to friends here and when the Oxford Circus one finally opened I practically wet myself. On the way home from work I had to stop off at Oxford Circus and do a couple of diagonals before heading home.
Anyway, there's the perfect candidate for another one, right here in the heart of our strip, which is the junction of Green Lanes, Salisbury Road and Warham Road. There effectively IS a diagonal in operation already the way the lights are programmed but without the street markings. If you're going North up Green Lanes on the Yasar Halim side of the road and want to cross over to go to the Salisbury pub (for example), then you get a Green man to go over Green Lanes at the same time as a green man to go over Salisbury Road, so you can just unofficially walk the diagonal. However, doing the official crossing and waiting with kids to go over the green men in two stages at this junction every day as I do can take AGES - you quite often have to wait a four light cycle before getting a green man. The cycle would be much quicker as would the crossing if it were simply a two cycle system followed by one four-way green man with red lights for all the roads (ie green light for Green Lanes -> green light for Salisbury Road -> four-way green man -> repeat). This wouldn't actually slow the roads down at all and would hugely improve the pedestrian use of this poorly set-out junction - it's crying out for a nifty diagonal!
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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The picture suggests this is just a demi-diagonal; the southwest-northeast route doesn't appear to be included, I've just noticed.
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Well, really it is a full diagonal (it's not like you have to stop in the middle of the road!), but it's not a double diagonal! Still great.
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Permalink Reply by Andy Newman on
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Hugo - The GRA proposed at the Green Lanes Corridors Workshop (£1.2Million bid to TFL ) last month this style of crossing on Green Lanes at the Junction of Salisbury Road and Warham Rd to access the PO etc - This is a nightmare and fatal crossing place on Green Lanes the bill of £400K shows how much it all very quickly can disappear? As you say it is crying out for such a crossing and I beleive it will save lives?
Andy GRA
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Does anyone know why it costs so much to build one of these Tokyo crossings? I have no idea what goes into this - so a bit of a layman in that sense - but £400k seems like a huge some? I remember the one in Oxford Circus cost around £5m (if I remember correctly) - which is just insane, no matter how many barriers you have to remove and lines you have to draw.
But I am definitely pro the new crossing in Wood Green - the junction is so large and has needed this for a while - Maybe a similar one in Turnpike lane?
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At Oxford Circus they did a lot of relocating curbs, rebuilding pavements, moving all sorts of signs and traffic lights and obstructions etc. There was a lot of work involved.
I haven't been paying close enough attention at Wood Green to see exactly what work's been done, but it's certainly been more than painting extra lines.
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This photo - taken on 19 November - shows the crossing and the work still underway.
As you'll see, there'll be almost direct pedestrian links between Paddy Power, William Hill and Ladbrokes.
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