Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Bin Alley, Wightman Road
I don't live on Wightman, so you may say I have no right to comment. But the problem created for residents since the introduction of the wheelie bins seems to be an issue that affects all pedestrians who use the road. There's a part of Wightman where the houses are set up a little from the road. This has left the residents in a tricky position about where to put their bins.
I don't want to give the residents of these houses grief, but I'm just wondering if between we the people & the Council, we couldn't come up with a better solution than leaving the bins blocking the pavement.
If these were cars (parked more the 50cm over the line) or pavement parked bikes, they'd be ticketed. I certainly DON'T want these bins ticketed, but it says to me ha the Council see it as a problem when the pavements are obstructed. Why aren't they seeking a solution here?
Any bright ideas? Councillors? Residents?
Tags for Forum Posts: Request for councillor help, Wightman Road, bins on wightman
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Permalink Reply by Danzigger on
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Why are the bins on the pavement rather than on the front paths?
And while we're at it, why are cars parked on the pavement?
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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With the bins, the paths are too narrow to accommodate the bins and these houses, on this short stretch, have raised front gardens, so the bins have to be lifted 2 or 3 feet to be put in the front gardens. I can kinda understand why people wouldn't want to do that every week, particularly when the bins are full.
As for the cars, I guess that's what happens on a residential road when it gets used as key traffic route. The through traffic comes first.
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I suspect I know the answer to this, but why can't the bin men lift full bins down from the gardens and return them there when empty?
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My suspicion is that I suspect the same that you suspect. I also suspect that we're both right.
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Permalink Reply by Old-Age-Emporium(OAE) on
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Hugh, I was away last week,so missed your Bin Alley post till now. I admire your circumspection in not wishing 'to give the residents of these houses grief' - but believe me, grief and a good kick up the arse is just what a few of these near neighbours of mine need. Not all of them. The late Mrs M, my next door neighbour, always did her best to park her wheelie on her short narrow path, despite her arthritis and difficulty of squeezing past. Glad to see her daughters continuing to be tidy (just north of your first pic).
The three bins outside Nos 65, 63, 61 (first pic) are a permanent problem, much more of a hindrance morning and night with all the parked vehicles. N.65 have their bin overflowing six days a week - which in turn attracts left luggage, occasional off-white goods and all their hedge clippings two weeks ago.
Just north of me (your second pic) there's no excuse for that bin outside the front wall of No.71. As I write both their bins are in their front yard. Now if they/their landlord/Alpha-Let Agency would get rid of their remaining rubbish they'd have space for a dozen wheelies.
The two bins outside 73 (second pic) could be stored in the purpose-built brick & concrete bin housing except that they're about 15cms too tall. So Liz's solution of smaller wheelies could be the answer - or maybe the new tenant/owner upstairs could add two extra brick courses to the bin kennel and still stow their recycling crates (empty) on top.
The OAE Residence plumb in the middle has space for bin, recycling crates, compost bucket, garden bags etc, so the old bugger has no excuse for impeding the pavement. (Of course that extra bit of frontage puts him on Band G - i.e. even if he had ten times the amount of rubbish he still wouldn't get value from his Council Tax - or did I mention that before?)
Solution 1: My other near neighbour, Cllr Canver, gets really serious about her twin roles of Environment/Recycling and Enforcement/Putting the Boot In. None of the houses (comprising 10 flats) in Hugh's photos have done any recycling or composting since, I believe, about 1887. Yes there is a problem with the raised front """gardens""", but nothing that wouldn't be manageable for resident or bin person if the wheelie bins were half the size and most of the bin contents were in the more easily handled green crates/compost buckets/garden bags.
Solution 2: Whatever size the wheelie bins, the Environment Dept adopts a policy of carrot & stick (rather as the SNT has done in the case of front door security) to persuade residents/landlords involved to adapt their raised front spaces ever so slightly. All that's required is a small enclave (maybe 1m x 0.5m) cut into their frontage down to ground level, with perhaps a slab cover to take a pair of recycling crates/compost bucket at the existing level.
Indeed I suggested that to former Recycling Tsar Haley (remember him, anyone?) at an AA over on Terront Road about three years ago. But then I may have confused him by stressing that 25 of my neighbours were petitioning him for some pavement resurfacing on this very stretch of Wightman. We're still waiting, Brian & Nilgun.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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How about the Brighton solution? No dustbins, just big bins every so often along the road for landfill, and recycle bins or boxes for the houses? Like this:
They are only about three feet wide so would fit within the pavement-edge parking bays.
Would need different trucks for collection, but a few experimental ones to begin with...?
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Harringay Pig Week in November perhaps? Or follow in the Coalition's slipstream and set up a Pig Society movement?
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OK they are a bit solid looking. So if painted in dainty pastels? Anyway the principle is a good one. It forces people to sort their rubbish, as they have to carry their landfill further than their front yard. Must save time ie costs, on collection: one bin instead of about ten, and already at the roadside. New thought - more space in front yards for vegetable growing.
And as said before, not all countries do house-to-house bin collection. They have communal bins at points along the road. Maybe I should not let that secret loose.
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