Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Meet the St Ann's Labour candidates - Sunday 26th at Chestnuts Community Centre
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Permalink Reply by Clive Carter
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Re the poster, "Meet the Candidates"
- Is this not misleading?
- This is not a normal Hustings
- Other election candidates are available!
More honestly, this would be:
Meet candidates only from the Party of the Ruling Group
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Permalink Reply by Kieran
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Hey Clive, I don't think 'Meet the Candidates' is misleading if they're the candidates and there's an opportunity for you to meet them.
And you're right, from the poster, I take it you just get to meet them - and that it's not a hustings.
If the Greens or anyone else do these, and I come across it, I'll be sharing theirs too of course.
Thought it was honestly worded too - as I mention Labour in the title, and it's on the poster.
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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton
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I'm still hoping to get some information about Green and fresh Labour candidates in my ward - Tottenham Hale. Because long ago I stopped voting for a Party ticket.
For example, I want to know if they can do more than echo slight variations of party slogans or repeat what a Dear Leader says. Are they thinking and feeling for themselves? If not, why give them a vote?Similarly if they're just rehashing their school play of The Emperor's New Clothes. Gissa job O Sir Keir!
And while we're talking performances, I have to confess that when I first saw Mel Brook's Fake Musical fragments in "Springtime for Hitler", in The Producers, I did find it funny.
But surely the new Mel producer must've had serious doubts that it would stand the test of time with the wider North London audience ?
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Update on candidates ringing our doorbell.
To be fair I ought to report that I had visits from two Labour and two Green candidates this morning.
Apparently someone re-posted my request on HoL for candidate chats on some Whatsap Group.
All were both frank and friendly. Like everyone else in Tottenham Hale ward we have three councillors and therefore three votes.
I've decided to split mine.Can I make an appeal for undecided voters to keep an eye out for candidates in your own streets. Courtesy and an appreciation for all of them is vitally important.
They are our fellow citizens engaged in an important part of the democratic process.
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Clive, they may not be the "Party of the ruling Group any longer. With a bit of luck they may be a Party having it's normal annual leadership elections. OR
A party very seriously learning from the outcome of the elections. Also learning with some humility from what residents told them when Party volunteers pressed thousands of residents' doorbells across the borough. And heard comments - negative and positive. Which will lead to the Party making significant changes.
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aA Party grappling at speed and with sensitivity with the task of forming a multiparty administration in the interests of residents as a whole and where new councillors are urgently taking on new tasks and responsibilities. Perhaps readjusting hopes and fears.
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Kieran, your poster is not as unreasonable as many examples of food labelling where often, one has to hunt for the net-weight which is often shown in the tiniest print.
The big prominent heading Meet the Candidates implies meet all the candidates, including those from competing parties.
But that is not the case is it?
Which brings me to another point about fairness in this election.
Is the Party of the Ruling Group paying any rent for the hire of the Community Centre?
If not, will or would the Community Centre make similar, single Party events, available to other Parties.
In order to be fair?
I hope that the Community Centre is not a Labour Party front!
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Hi Johnny
I'm a fan of truth and facts. Also of source documents - preferably checkable and downloadable online material. Could you please supply with dates and real names?
My own past experience is that searching minutes etc on the Council's website is often a reliable source of useful and accurate information. But I assume you base your own information on documents you've read. And can therefore give other residents reading this website, a rapid heads-up, so they can make their own judgrments.
You may also gather from my comments above that I expect to see many new councillors both Labour and other Parties. I welcome such changes and fresh approaches. But hope to see decisions based on hard facts rather than opinions and rumours.
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Permalink Reply by Johnny
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Hi Alan
I'm also a fan of hard facts and I think you'll agree they're increasingly hard to come by these days. So we do our best to get some sort of sense
2 sources, both partisan, so reading between the lines and noting the Labour/Council statement is tagged with the red flag word 'regeneration'
https://haringey.greenparty.org.uk/2025/12/11/chestnuts-community-c...
https://haringey.gov.uk/news/20251216/chestnuts-community-centre-up...
(note also council's use of the danger word 'opportunity')and backed with council minutes https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/documents/s151012/Community%20A...
happy reading :)
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This allows for the council, in accordance with its Social Value Leasing policy, to offer a lease opportunity at the site.
Hmmm. "lease opportunity" ~ is this not PR-speak?
Another opportunity the council offered into, was their 125-year Lease to dispose of Alexandra Palace to a casino-fan and former slum-landlord. That Lease—which was more than a mere opportunity as it was signed and sealed—was quashed in the High Court …
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Thanks Alan - good to see all that... but I can't see where it says they're shutting it down. I only remember reading some discussions about Bridge not wanting to renew, and then there was maybe a tender or something to find another owner etc... but then I've seen discussions about repainting and refurbishing etc, so hopefully not shutting down...
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Thanks Johnny,
But I'm still puzzled. The Green Party Website said:
\"The Bridge Renewal Trust, who have managed the centre for the past decade, informed the council of its plans to end its tenancy."
My years as a lawyer ended many years ago. But that seems to indicate the Trust intends to surrender the lease.Is that so unusual? My own past experience in voluntary sector organisations led me to think of them as more "organic". They seeded, took root, maybe bloomed, beautifully; and sometimes then faded and died away. Often depending very much on the personal energy and efforts and sometimes the personal and family circumstances of people in them.
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