Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Southgate in Colour in 1951 (and the Harringay connection)
The original video has been removed from Youtube. I think it was probably the one still online at Youtube here. There’s another (or possbibly a different cut of the same one) here.
I couldn't quite resist the charms of this old film even though it's a bit of a ways off for us. It paints a very cosy picture of a relatively nearby area just 60 years ago and the scenes it shows probably give a good idea of around here some fifty years before that.
And I can almost be excused since there is a local connection. As luck has it, the building you see in the picture in the video thumbnail is the Friends Meeting House in Winchmore Hill. It was here where the parents of Edward Gray, the builder of Harringay House, are buried. (Though no grave marker remains). (Shows at about 21 mins).
Gray's brother, Walker Gray, owned a property in the area called Southgate Grove (also called Grovelands). (Shows at about 20 mins). Built by the same family and at about the same time as Harringay House, I fancy this house gives us some sense of what Harringay House looked like. It subsequently passed by marriage into the Taylor brewing family.
And the final part of my excuse is Arnos Park which belonged to the Walker family, Quaker brewers and cousins of the Gray family. (Shows at 9.30 mins).
The Taylors and the Walkers together formed Taylor-Walker brewers.
So there is a local connection after all you see. I do have an excuse!
Thanks here to Angela Burge with whom I collaborated virtually to build up the Gray family tree.
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Comment by Gerry N on June 21, 2011 at 20:09
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Blagdons lane.. Where foxes were caught as recently as 1946 !
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I hope General Pinochet enjoyed his stay at Grovelands with all those peace-and-beer-loving Quaker ghosts around Hallowe'en 1998.
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Comment by Melvyn on June 22, 2011 at 6:19
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great find
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"Video unavailable" ! Such a pity, I would loved to have seen that. I have a photo of my grandmother with a group of nurses and recuperating soldiers in 1916 outside Grovelands when used as a hospital. And there has been a years old tale where an auntie, employed as a servant girl, gave birth to a child whose father was reputedly/fancifully rumoured to be the squire of the house...a Lipton of the tea fame. Probably not "quite" true but the poor lady died in or soon after giving birth. My Mother's childhood home was in Ivy Road, Southgate.
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Comment by Hugh on June 15, 2024 at 20:08
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See links in new 1st para, John.
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Comment by Richard Woods on June 21, 2024 at 16:23
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Thank you yet again Hugh. Southgate was at the limit of my Hornsey Journal days but during my spell as sports editor I was invited to several club dinners - cricket, football, tennis and rugby so got to visit several establishments, especially the Cherry Tree I think it was. Broomfield park brought back happy childhood memories. I and my brother sailed yachts, raced jet powered hydroplanes ( honest using a thing called a Jetex motor of which i still have one!). And we loved the museum although were nervous of he amazing glass displayed bee hive. Happy days. Thanks again!
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I think the video is among those available for £5 from Southgate District Civic Voice
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