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Complaints of Waste in Ducketts Road & Roseberry Gardens
For members in Roseberry Gardens & Ducketts Road, the following in from Cllr Canver:
From: McNicholas Michael Sent: 25 May 2010 16:33
To: Cllr Canver Nilgun
Cc: Collings C Chris; Binnie Grant; McDonnell Stephen; Riveiro Maria; Eghan Geraldo; Chapman Tony
Subject: Rosebery Gardens and Ducketts Road, FAS waste
Dear Cllr. Canver,
you advised me at our meeting last week that there are particular problems with waste left on the pavement at Roseberry Gardens and Ducketts Road. I have looked into these and would respond as follows.
Roseberry Gardens
There are approximately eight flats above shops which are accessed via an alley way that leads off Roseberry Gardens on the left hand side as you proceed down Roseberry Gardens from Green Lanes. Reisidents in these flats leave their waste at the top of the alley way on Roseberry Gardens whereas they should leave their waste in Green Lanes for collection.
Residents will receive the timed collection leaflet to explain where and when waste should be left out to comply with the Green Lanes timed collections. This will be done by Friday 28th May 2010 or sooner. This will be done by the local Contract Monitoring Officer, Grant Binnie.
Following this, Grant will monitor the location at least three times per week to determine whether waste is being left out in the right place and at the right time. Where this is not the case Grant will work in liaison with Maria Rivera in the Enforement Service, who covers enforcement in this area, to identify those who are responsible. If education and advice is not sufficient to resolve the problem of waste out at the wrong time and/or in the wrong place, enforcement action against those responsible may be taken.
It is not clear that education, advice and enforcement action will resolve this problem due to transience, language barriers and possibly even literacy levels. If this is the case we will need to consider a different approach by possibly requesting that Enterprise make a special effort to go into Roseberry Gardens to collect twice per day whilst collecting along Green Lanes. This is not a contractual requirement and it may be that Enterprise would want to make an additional charge for this. Given the pressures on budgets we would try to resist making additional payments if possible but if we are unable to do so we would need to gain agreement for additional expenditure of this kind before proceeding.
We will review these arrangements at the end of June to determine whether they have worked and report back with our findings and any follow up work that might be necessary.
Ducketts Road
The situation here is similar to Roseberry Gardens. There are approximately 6 mews-type properties which are accessed via an alley way that leads off Ducketts Road on the left hand side as you proceed down Ducketts Road from Green Lanesand and which are gated. Residents in these flats leave their waste at the top of the alley way on Ducketts Road whereas they should leave their waste in Green Lanes for collection.
Although these are not flats above shops-type properties, the nature of their design and build means that they cannot have normal refuse collection arrangements and so they should comply with the timed collection service. Residents received timed collection leaflets on 21st May 2010 to explain where and when waste should be left out to comply with the Green Lanes timed collections. This was done by the local Contract Monitoring Officer, Grant Binnie.
Grant will monitor the location at least three times per week to determine whether waste is being left out in the right place and at the right time. Where this is not the case Grant will work in liaison with Geraldo Eghan in the Enforement Service, who covers enforcement in this area, to identify those who are responsible. If education and advice is not sufficient to resolve the problem of waste out at the wrong time and/or in the wrong place, enforcement action against those responsible may be taken.
Again, it is not clear that education, advice and enforcement action will resolve this problem due to transience, language barriers and possibly even literacy levels. If this is the case we will need to consider a different approach by possibly requesting that Enterprise make a special effort to go into Ducketts Road to collect twice per day whilst collecting along Green Lanes. There would be the same issues asking Enterprise to do this in Ducketts Road as explained above for Roseberry Gardens.
We will review these arrangements at the end of June to determine whether they have worked and report back with our findings and any follow up work that might be necessary.
I hope this information is useful. Please let me know if you have any queries. I will aim to report back on progress at the end of June.
Chris Collings or I will be attending the Gardens Resident Association meeting on Thursday.
Yours sincerely,
Michael McNicholas
Client and Performance Manager
From: McNicholas Michael Sent: 25 May 2010 16:33
To: Cllr Canver Nilgun
Cc: Collings C Chris; Binnie Grant; McDonnell Stephen; Riveiro Maria; Eghan Geraldo; Chapman Tony
Subject: Rosebery Gardens and Ducketts Road, FAS waste
Dear Cllr. Canver,
you advised me at our meeting last week that there are particular problems with waste left on the pavement at Roseberry Gardens and Ducketts Road. I have looked into these and would respond as follows.
Roseberry Gardens
There are approximately eight flats above shops which are accessed via an alley way that leads off Roseberry Gardens on the left hand side as you proceed down Roseberry Gardens from Green Lanes. Reisidents in these flats leave their waste at the top of the alley way on Roseberry Gardens whereas they should leave their waste in Green Lanes for collection.
Residents will receive the timed collection leaflet to explain where and when waste should be left out to comply with the Green Lanes timed collections. This will be done by Friday 28th May 2010 or sooner. This will be done by the local Contract Monitoring Officer, Grant Binnie.
Following this, Grant will monitor the location at least three times per week to determine whether waste is being left out in the right place and at the right time. Where this is not the case Grant will work in liaison with Maria Rivera in the Enforement Service, who covers enforcement in this area, to identify those who are responsible. If education and advice is not sufficient to resolve the problem of waste out at the wrong time and/or in the wrong place, enforcement action against those responsible may be taken.
It is not clear that education, advice and enforcement action will resolve this problem due to transience, language barriers and possibly even literacy levels. If this is the case we will need to consider a different approach by possibly requesting that Enterprise make a special effort to go into Roseberry Gardens to collect twice per day whilst collecting along Green Lanes. This is not a contractual requirement and it may be that Enterprise would want to make an additional charge for this. Given the pressures on budgets we would try to resist making additional payments if possible but if we are unable to do so we would need to gain agreement for additional expenditure of this kind before proceeding.
We will review these arrangements at the end of June to determine whether they have worked and report back with our findings and any follow up work that might be necessary.
Ducketts Road
The situation here is similar to Roseberry Gardens. There are approximately 6 mews-type properties which are accessed via an alley way that leads off Ducketts Road on the left hand side as you proceed down Ducketts Road from Green Lanesand and which are gated. Residents in these flats leave their waste at the top of the alley way on Ducketts Road whereas they should leave their waste in Green Lanes for collection.
Although these are not flats above shops-type properties, the nature of their design and build means that they cannot have normal refuse collection arrangements and so they should comply with the timed collection service. Residents received timed collection leaflets on 21st May 2010 to explain where and when waste should be left out to comply with the Green Lanes timed collections. This was done by the local Contract Monitoring Officer, Grant Binnie.
Grant will monitor the location at least three times per week to determine whether waste is being left out in the right place and at the right time. Where this is not the case Grant will work in liaison with Geraldo Eghan in the Enforement Service, who covers enforcement in this area, to identify those who are responsible. If education and advice is not sufficient to resolve the problem of waste out at the wrong time and/or in the wrong place, enforcement action against those responsible may be taken.
Again, it is not clear that education, advice and enforcement action will resolve this problem due to transience, language barriers and possibly even literacy levels. If this is the case we will need to consider a different approach by possibly requesting that Enterprise make a special effort to go into Ducketts Road to collect twice per day whilst collecting along Green Lanes. There would be the same issues asking Enterprise to do this in Ducketts Road as explained above for Roseberry Gardens.
We will review these arrangements at the end of June to determine whether they have worked and report back with our findings and any follow up work that might be necessary.
I hope this information is useful. Please let me know if you have any queries. I will aim to report back on progress at the end of June.
Chris Collings or I will be attending the Gardens Resident Association meeting on Thursday.
Yours sincerely,
Michael McNicholas
Client and Performance Manager
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by Dermot Gilroy on
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Excellent news.
Hopefully this will succeed in cleaning up this eyesore.
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I can't believe people are leaving rubbish outside their houses for the council to collect.
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Permalink Reply by pamish on
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I just spent a couple of days in Brighton. Its not just a yuppie town, there are big chunks that are just 'ordinary' estates etc.
They have a reverse policy to LBH. There, the presumption is that chuck-outs are recyclable, so there are boxes (similar to our green ones) for every house or flat to fill with recyclables, these are collected by the Council. Landfill has to be taken by the producer, to one of the big black bins placed at intervals on the roadside. Dustbins don't exist.
I may be wrong but I think our UK setup is a minority way of working, where rubbish is collected from houses direct. Spain, France, there are bins at the end of the road, presumably now (I've not checked lately) with sortable containers recycling/landfill.
So is there really a difference between Brighton and Haringey? If getting rid of rubbish meant having to walk along the road to a bin, would people do better at fishing out the recyclables first?
I'm about to ask Haringey if they have seen this system and what they think of it. Don't hold your breath.
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