Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
'An old map: a topography question ...
Good afternoon. I have a question for the community. On the map "A survey of the roads and foot-paths in the parish of Islington" (1735/1811) [British Library Maps: Crace Port. 15.45] - which includes Stroud Green and Crouch End - there appear at various places hatched lines crossing the roadway, as shown in the separate close up image of Stroud Green. I am wondering what is represented by these marks? All/any thoughts gratefully received. Thanks.
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Permalink Reply by Peter Brooks on
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Could they possibly be Fords? They seem to be depicted from the south of both hills
and onto the lower levels.
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Permalink Reply by man-thinking on
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A much clearer version (using + and - ) is on the website of the Yale Centre fir British Art
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Permalink Reply by Allen Cullen on
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They look like streams, & some of them also show small bridges. Great map, ta!
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Permalink Reply by Ken Stevens on
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As someone already suggested, I'm plumping for streams.
Ages ago I copied the image of an ebay entry, portion of 1675 London Holyhead map. Comparing it with he Islington survey, thdre might be some correlation of streamscrossing just north of the junction of Hornsey Road and Holloway road.
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Hi Ken
Cheers for that. If you don't know, those great road maps can be found online (high res). I'm a Tottenham boy, so the notes & links etc below are from a post I put on Facebook a while ago. If you want to find other maps by the same guy (Ogilby), you can look around those sites yourself:
Ogilby roads C17 (map 5):
https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~304208~9...
John Ogilby & his surveyors trekked 7,500 miles of rough roads in England & Wales in the C17 (or way more than that, said the man himself!). The resulting road atlas ‘Britannia’, finally published in 1675 just before his death, weighed nearly 7kg! Its simple ‘1 inch for 1 mile’ was later used in OS Maps too. Slightly different versions of his atlas were subsequently made, eg smaller ones, so here are 3 editions showing Tottenham for you to see.
I don’t think they got it all exactly right here, but I still like it!
Anything interesting or confusing for you? Tell us!
Credit: David Rumsey Map Collection, Altea Gallery, Cambridge University, Great Maps.
More info & links below:
https://cartographicperspectives.org/index.php/journal/article/view... (one third way down)
maps Britannia front cover Credit: cartographicperspectives
“Inside Britannia, the reader is greeted with over one hundred double-leaf maps. Each contains six or seven vertically aligned and ribbon-like strips, each of which is two-and-a-half inches wide (Chubb, Skells, and Beharrell [1927] 1966, 85) and covers approximately seventy miles (Baynton-Williams 2006). These strips could be cut out of Britannia or published separately, like those carried by the man on horseback or by the angel in the upper-left of the frontispiece (Harley 1970, xviii; Van Eerde 1976, 137). However presented, each map is read from bottom-left to top-right: the road named in its title cartouche (top-center) unwinds county-by-county past landmarks—at measured intervals and with direction changes indicated by compass roses—towards its final destination. So clear is Ogilby’s presentation that “the reader can follow the road on paper as if physically riding along it” (Delano-Smith and Kain 1999, 170).” (cartographicperspectives)
https://alteagallery.com/view_product.php?prod_id=PROD100002189
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PR-ATLAS-00004-00067-00006/5
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Oh wow, thank you Allen!
I foresee many happy hours of browsing - in between all the documention to be completed for current house move!
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Haha, hope you're still able to focus enough for your essential house business!
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:-)
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Permalink Reply by Richard Woods on
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I am going to suggest they may show the location of stiles for animal management?
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Permalink Reply by Vaughan on
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Fabulous old map (I live in Stroud Green & I love Maps)
I wonder if the lines you refer to are indicators of minor streams, or areas of flood when there is rain. The area is hilly. The time is 1735 when roads were like farm tracks. Flooding would have been common and it would. have been useful for travellers/farmers etc to know where the hazards were.
Vaughan (Melzer)
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I note from ebay that you could have your very own copy for a mere £329! :-)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403783368162?hash=item5e035d3de2:g:L3oAA...
I also note from looking in the depths of my laptop that I happened to have copied off another version some while back that includes a listing of the roads and paths
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A nice table with that copy! : )
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