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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

During recent storms noticed that many Borough Roads are having Road flooding issues.

Can not remember seeing Drains being cleared for ages

Now that motorist can be fined for Spraying other road users and pavement users

Can motorist sue local authority for failing to keep drains working and roads from being flooded

Well aware difference in Cities and Countryside 

Passed through Turnpike Lane junction green lanes last week and water was 3/4 of the way across both lanes of traffic

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Motorists who spray pedestrians with water are committing the actual example in the road code of Careless Driving. It's not new.

The following draws from the minutes of the meeting of the Haringey Rivers Forum last December where Pankit Shah, Haringey lead officer for flood and Water Management, gave a comprehensive presentation of the approach to flood risk.

Following the 2010 Flood and Water Management Act local authorities have lead responsibility in coordinating all aspects of surface water flooding and for assessing the risk of floods. The responsible agencies are The Canal and River Trust, the Environment Agency, Thames Water, Transport for London and local landowners.

A number of Critical Drainage Areas (C.D.A.s) have been identified in Haringey and a public consultation exercise was run in 2018 to inform the content of policy. The priorities identified were maintenance of current drainage and sustainable drainage for new developments. Haringey Council approved a new Local Flood Risk Management Strategy in July 2019, scroll down to page 7 here.

The drainage system is old and inadequate. It is under pressure from changes in water use, increased urbanization, ‘urban creep’ and climate change. However no money is available for renewal of the drainage infrastructure. There are no restrictions on residents concreting/bricking/otherwise covering back and front gardens and consequently there is much more surface water which finds its way into the drainage system. In Greater London, every year, an area the size of Hyde Park is replaced by impermeable surfaces.  

Council policy is the installation of Sustainable Drainage Schemes (SuDS). These are essentially permeable planted areas with added features designed to soak up rainwater. Various SuDs have been planted in the borough, two of the largest being Rectory Road and Crescent Gardens. At least 8 further public projects are envisaged including four on Homes for Haringey estates. New street trees should be planted with a permeable surround and gullies from the road to take water to the trees. New developments are required to be designed to store their own water on site.

I think SUDS is a very good idea, but I'm less convinced that it will work for Green Lanes between the New River & Harringay Green Lanes station, including the run off from Finsbury Park...

Unless a new marsh is created on some or all of the current cricket/baseball pitch. This would certainly be a benefit to wildlife, but might be opposed by people who like these sports....maybe replacing the car park next to Homebase?

The road under the bridge at Harringay Green Lanes station is flooding a lot in heavy rain - and I've seen water gushing out of one of the drains when this is happening. I think the water may be flowing into the drain further up the hill (e.g. the corner of the Finsbury Park cricket/baseball pitch), then coming out again further down the hill, maybe due to a blockage.

The most disgusting puddle must be the one at the junction between St Ann's Road and Seven Sisters road, which smells like it must be from a leaking sewer. It was apparently reported on 9th January, but is still there....

The smelly puddle on St Ann’s Road has been cleared by Thames Water now. 

I took the shot above in Redston Rd. Hornsey - OK not in Harringay - but it showss the extent of the neglect by the council and is representative of the lack of maintenance. Whlist the drainage system might be 'old and inadequate' it could be greatly improved by basic maintenance: i.e. regular cleaning of drain covers such as the above. I have written to my local councillor about this asking what the programme of cleaning is / should be. I have not yet had a reply.

Visited Western Road recycling centre yesterday afternoon

Nice dry day. But plenty of static water. As it seems most of drains was blocked

Close to School. so much for a Child carrying Council 

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