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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

I'd value an opionion from residents in the streets around Harringay Green Lanes station and Railway Firelds.

It's my impression that it never really gets dark any more in my back garden - I have to use curtains and blackout blinds all the time, just to give myself the feeling of it being night-time. I think it's been worse since the station was refurbished, as the overhead ights there are very bright. (Not to mention the LED streetlights which are more like stadium lighting.)

It disturbs my sleep, but I'm also worried about wildlife, being so close to Railway Fields. I believe there is some regulation about lighting being 'bat-friendly' in areas close to wildlife, and I don't know whether the station lights are compliant.

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Hello Maddy, I agree. A few of us in Tottenham objected to the new brighter street lighting because of the effect on wildliife. (apparently birds can sing all night thinking its daylight) The council ignored our objections and stated that there were little caps which could be put on the street lights. However these shades had to be requested by residents near street lamps. I doubt that project still exists? I think the LED street lamps which are higher are so ugly too while elsewhere in London certain posh areas get lovely Victorian type street lights. 

The 'caps' you're talking about are just a lamp shade to stop the light shining through your bedroom window. The street will still be bright. I too don't like all this light pollution and it's expanding. There's also talk of putting street lights in Finsbury Park, (behind my place) so that stupid people can lessen the risk when they walk through the dark park in the dead of night. I've seen it lit up for football parking and it's not nice. The nocturnal wildlife would disappear and the skies above it would not been seen again. At the moment I can look up on a clear night and see the stars, the ISS and even meteor showers interspersed with the occasional fluttering of a bat as it goes by. But back to the street lights. last night I couldn't sleep so got up and came into the living room at the front of the house. after a cuppa I decided I'd try to nap on the settee but it was too bright in the room. Even though it was night time the street lamp lit this room up enough to even read by. I had to go over and close the curtains to get the darkness that I wanted.

Brighter LED's are more cost Effective and brought in following complaints that old lighting left roads dark and unsafe for users

I have seen programmes that Wildlife gets used to brighter lights in time

Down to better Curtains that can block the light better in your properties

Been calls for lighting in Finsbury Park for many years. As many use the park as a walkway                                And to reduce assaults on people using the park after dusk 

My point is that they just shouldn't be in there after dark. I've lived here for more than 40 years now and the park at night is a haven for wildlife. There are places that I wouldn't dream of going, (especially on my own) if I deemed it unsafe, Epping forest and certain estate areas for example. Leave these places dark as they should be. I'd prefer to see nature as it is, now, and not converted to live as we do, beside us, all lit up.

Just look at how the foxes have changed their way of life to fit in with ours.

Believe people are using facilities after work

Lights show up shadows if others in area

So people have to walk around Dark Streets in their Thousands to save a few wild animals ? 

I walk in the park in the dark and feel safer as I don't think assailants would spot me and my bags as easily. If there is lighting I believe assailants can see it's a vulnerable person or woman walking alone in a park. The point is the parks have fewer people walking about and that is the reason more people are attacked in them. This occurs in daylight too.

Since when does light stop crime? I think more lighting would enable criminals to see victims and properties better.

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