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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on June 30, 2018 at 10:39

A few other points JHauptman. 
You've made some comments about subsidies to certain favoured businesses. I know about some of these examples - Chicken Town and Jon McAslan being the two prominent and evidenced examples where not only was there no "level playing field" but where the legal State Aid limit appeared to be ignored.
If you have hard information on others - or enable questions which can be posed as F.o.I.s - I'd be interested.

Your point about industrial estates is one - which you probably know - has been raised by academics and others.

Your suggestion that this is to do with a market-driven economy seems an over-simplification. You mentioned peppercorn rents and if that's accurate it would be another example of avoiding the rules and framework of the market economy. Instead asking the Local State and local politicians to waive rules, and subsidise favoured businesses ranging from "hard-up"  football clubs; to starving starchitects; to bars they like going to.

As consolation prizes, public money is sometimes given to a few shops -not directly but to pay for external designers doing a cosmetic facelift. Apparently this is done without any understanding  of the chains of property ownership; nor who actually benefits from the public subsidy.  Elsewhere, basic services fail to function properly - stuff like fixing potholes promptly & keeping pavements clear and clean.
Not much chance of a politician getting a selfie or proper photo-op, I guess.

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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on June 30, 2018 at 11:29

A discussion about public policy depressing?

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Permalink Reply by Abi on July 1, 2018 at 8:46

Welcome to HoL

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Permalink Reply by Paul Harding on June 30, 2018 at 9:17

'funky' 

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Permalink Reply by matt on June 30, 2018 at 9:40

Radical 

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Permalink Reply by kotkas on June 30, 2018 at 15:15

That's a hell of a first post. "Food market vs. 'bus drivers of the industrial world' - the age old tension of capitalist society!" 

I don't usually find common ground with Alan but I'd agree that the assumptions you make about this business border on defamation.

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Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on July 1, 2018 at 11:11

Hmm, JHauptman, it seems that - inexplicably - there's a bit less than an ecstatic reception for your suggestion that "there is a lot more to consider"  than "music and food on a lovely summer's evening". 

I've sent you a connection request if you feel like continuing the discussion offline. I see you're on the Victoria Line. So are we.

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Permalink Reply by Lisa on July 1, 2018 at 7:33

Did anyone go yesterday?
If so, was it busy, and any good free samples?

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Permalink Reply by Mavic Starfish on July 1, 2018 at 8:27

Yes, about half full, great music and nice setup considering it was a warehouse in its previous guise.  Food was lovely but small portions, veggie options very poor unfortunately.  Great vibe for the World Cup, all in all would go again but it's definitely more for meat eaters and drinkers.  

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Permalink Reply by Abi on July 1, 2018 at 8:44

I didn't have a problem finding veggie food - why do you think the offering was poor?

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Permalink Reply by Mavic Starfish on July 1, 2018 at 10:34

We could only find one stall (Venezuelan) , was there are others that offered anything apart from chips?  

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Permalink Reply by Con2 on July 1, 2018 at 20:20

we went, loved it, child friendly dog friendly

great food and drinks, lucky to have it on our doorstep

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