Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
What's going on inside St.Ann's hospital?
Some works have started at the beginning of the month inside St.Ann's hospital. Does anyone know what's going on? They started scraping off the grass and removing a thick layer of soil and now started digging all over the place. They're doing a deep trench where the road was...
The situation on the 6th of December:
The situation today:
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Permalink Reply by Hugh on
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There’s a huge project coming at St Ann’s. The NHS will be consolidating their operations on the eastern part of the site. The western part will be developed by StART/GLA. I think what’s happening now is the start of the NHS consolidation.
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Permalink Reply by Luca on
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What does this consolidation of their operations on the eastern side involve?
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Essentially, half of the site has been sold to the GLA for housing redevelopment. Most of the services that operate out of there today will either continue to run in remaining and new buildings on the eastern part of the site. Some services will be relocated. There have been six pages of discussions on this topic. You can look through those by clicking on the tag I’ve added under the original post above.
With regards to more precise plans on what’s happening with the hospital part of the site, there will definitely be a detailed plan linked to in one of the many discussions that already been on the site, but I think you’ll find it in the planning application I’ve linked to from this discussion
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Permalink Reply by Lawrence on
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Site is being redistributed of mental health services via redevelopment of St. Ann's and western side is getting sold off and will house about 250-400 families with 2 building high density blocks, 2 medium density blocks, rest low density (75~100) houses and park / playground area
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Permalink Reply by Keats Pereira on
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"Redistributed of mental health services? Excuse my ignorance, what does that mean? Where to?
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Harrigey Mental Health Service low on bed and room for current situation so they are building a wing to cope with it and now government has located extra funding for mental health services
What I mean by redistributed is that St. Ann's will be main site for MHS instead it being scattered throughout Harrigey and police and ambulance services can bring under one roof ...
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Good. More beds and staff are needed. Lovely site it is. Shame if they knock down all them lovely Victorian chimney buildings though. Lovely trees. Its a nice spot. Maybe they'll keep some of the brickwork like at st anns police station
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So much has gone with the development of this site over the years and I can’t claim to be fully up to date. Without diving back in to it all, what I think is the case is that full planning permission was given in 2015 which included high density housing. However, since then, StART came on the scene and the GLA have purchased the site. Both are committed to a sensitive scheme focussed on genuinely affordable housing for a mix of occupancy types. The GLA is currently tendering for a developer to work with them and StART. I think I’m right in saying that the development scheme isn’t yet fixed and will be drawn up by the developer working within in strict guidelines set out by GLA/StTART.
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The StART vision statement from 2017 (attached below) probably gives a very sound steer on the broad direction of the development
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Yes..... Yes this is what I was talking about "master plan" didn't know that it was called "StART" ... sorry and thank you hugh
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Permalink Reply by Chris Setz on
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I'm a member of StART, having paid £1 to join - all it takes. I try to maintain a timeline of events (from 1066 onwards..) - glad of any additions\amendments\comments - roughly here's what's happened recently:
In 2015 the Barnet, Enfield and Haringey Mental Health Trust (BEH) who owned the land, obtained planning permission from our Council for 470 homes of which 14% would be “affordable” i.e. at 80% of market rate.
Many local people are unaware of the change of use of this hospital land which contains a number of Victorian buildings. Health services have been on the site for over 120 years. There is a rich collection of mature trees, gardens and a Site of Importance to Nature Conservation.
By means of a lot of community meetings, visits to local groups, street stalls, leaflet drops, festivals, local gatherings, workshops, surveys and online, we consulted (and continue to consult) with local people about decisions we are making. We have demonstrated strong local support for 800 homes. We campaign for at least 65% of these to be genuinely affordable, based on median local incomes, in perpetuity.
StART formed a Community Land Trust to keep the land as a community asset and to develop community led housing. We wrote a brief for an architect’s MasterPlan, crowdfunding £25k for the cost.
We approached the Greater London Authority (GLA) to buy the land and in May 2018 the London Mayor announced the purchase. They set up a steering group to take forward the development of the site, nominating StART as a member along with the Council (LBH) and the GLA, with BEH as guests. We work to ensure the local community’s vision is included in plans for the housing development, and taking an active part in planning that development.
StART has over 470 local members with about 40 active people working to develop our vision and engagement with the GLA, LBH, BEH and local people. On average 150 hours a week of people’s time was donated last year. We employ a worker and engage consultants to support us with much needed expertise in the field of community housing development. We work largely in sub-groups of unpaid volunteers, with a general meeting every fortnight to report progress and confirm decisions. All meetings are open and we especially welcome local residents.
Housing development will not begin until 2021, so there is potential for meanwhile use until then.
Bringing all this together and with a need for meeting space, we have a project to use one of the buildings, Mayfield House, as a community hub.
The hub will provide a focal point for StART: office and meeting space, somewhere to welcome local people to drop in, see and contribute to our ideas and continuing work with GLA. We’re excited by a different way to engage with local people and new ways to consult with the community. Activities might also include community gardening, food sharing, tree walks, site tours, exhibitions and those suggested by hub visitors.
We will be able to develop and deepen community engagement from within the site that will be the new neighbourhood, giving people an opportunity to imagine it from one of the buildings that will be retained for community use. Importantly this will bring people together, build relationships and engage all sections of the local community in our work.
The GLA have agreed our use of Mayfield House, so we are seeking funds to set up an office and community space. We will be able to operate the hub for three years or more, converting the building into community use for residents and local people as the housing develops.
There's plenty more foreground and background - please do consider attending one of our fortnightly general meetings (calendar half way down the home page of our website) where our decision are taken, information and updates presented and discussions happen. People usually come along and go on to join one of our sub-groups, which meet at various locations around Tottenham monthly and sometimes more frequently to hammer out issues, create responses to the GLA, put on events, decide on strategy, do publicity, set environmental standards etc - any of the thousands of things community groups need to advance our cause.
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StART sounds brilliant, I'm gonna get involved with them. I'm a "PAT" passionate about TOTTENHAM.
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