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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Turnpike Lake

Anyone seen it on the way home? too tired to take a pic, maybe in the morning, (if it's still there,) something's amiss with the drain on Duckets corner with turnpike Lane, (about 10 meters long I reckon.)

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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 15, 2014 at 8:48

And there was I thinking it was 101 in the American sense of being a basic, starter approach to something. Or is it a numerical and behavioural pun?

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on October 21, 2014 at 7:38

That too, Gordon. As an organisation Haringey's failure to record, learn and conduct honest self-assessment means it almost invariably goes back to zero.  Now made worse by self-deluding PR.

And a 101 Council in a third sense. The one used by George Orwell in Nineteen Eighty-four. "You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world."

Of course, as a subscriber to Private Eye magazine and an avid reader of the "Rotten Boroughs" column I'm not in any way suggesting that Haringey is the worst led council in the UK.  Yet.

P.S. It seems that Orwell got the idea from a real Room 101 at the BBC.

Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on October 15, 2014 at 6:50
A good idea doesn't go unnoticed, has any other council adopted this idea?
Permalink Reply by matthew cuthbert on October 15, 2014 at 8:29
To be fare they're usually pretty good, I just wondered if anyone else had noticed this extraordinary anomaly, the Highway Alliance are catching up on a backlog of gullies, 15,000 to be checked and cleared Haringey wide. I couldn't see or locate whether it was a gully problem, grateful for the picture added. The night bus driver, resisted the temptation of accelerating through Lake Le Man, (which would have drenched me,) and cautiously drove slowly by, so Ta!
Permalink Reply by Gordon T on October 14, 2014 at 14:34

Tris, the stretch you describe is in Hackney from Manor House down as far as the New River bridge, Haringey only between the bridge and Hermitage Road, if you're in reporting mode.

Permalink Reply by Anne Gray on October 17, 2014 at 12:26

They do have a maintenance programme - it came down my street (Sirdar Road, N22) quite recently. Westbury Avenue as well as Green Lanes becomes a bit of a lake near the station. I reported it on https://eforms.secure.haringey.gov.uk/ufs/ufsmain?esessionid=1CF8AE... . You have to pretend you're reporting a pothole for the Council's web site system to work.

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on October 17, 2014 at 12:54

Anne, it's here. On the Council's Report-It webpage. Scroll down to the section on "Drains and Flooding - Report a drain or gully that may be blocked, or flooding".  Or this picture

Or go directly here.

I agree they seem to have made finding these pages a bit harder. (But probably it's just Haringey trying to keep us all on our mental toes.)

If people can, I'd recommend taking a photo and posting on FixMyStreet.

It's especially useful if there's a repeated pattern  of blocked drains and flooding over months or even years at the same location. It might suggest that someone is deliberately emptying waste (e.g cooking fat or oil) into the drains; or there's been collapse in the pipes; or perhaps that there's run-off from nearby gardens or paths.  Then, the cause or causes need investigating beyond just cleaning-out the gully.

Permalink Reply by Alan Stanton on October 21, 2014 at 7:00

I'm been thinking about this a bit more.

One dispiriting thing about Haringey's Environment Department is its resolutely old-fashioned and bureaucratic style of communication. Look at other councils' websites and they'll say something like "We are responsible for cleaning drains on public roads."  Or they write about "road gullies (drains)". 

In our street Haringey put up this sign about "Carriageway Drainage Works".  Admittedly there's also a photo of a drain grating - just in case people don't use the term "carriageway" when their postillion is struck by lightning.

Maybe Haringey's website has information about the question Tris asked - a drain cleaning programme.  But I couldn't find it.

I did find a helpful page on Surrey's website.  It probably has more than most people want to know about gratings, drains, gully pots etc.  In what seems to me plain English.

And with photos and diagrams. For years I've talked glibly about gully pots without having a clue what they looked like. Now I do.

I know Surrey has quite a few quid more than Haringey to do these things. But I was glad to see they have a "state of the art drain waste-recycling centre". Maybe we do too; but nobody told me.

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