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Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!

Just looking at the agenda pack for next week's council meeting the recommendation is that all three are made permanent.

https://www.minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgChooseDocPack.aspx?ID=10862

It's all pretty dense, this is a ChatGPT  summary of it I've seen which seems to tally with the bits I've looked through but no guaranteeing how accurate it is:

Recommendation

Make all 3 trial LTNs permanent due to improvements in active travel, reduced traffic, and safety benefits.

### St. Ann's LTN
1. *Traffic Reduction*: Achieved a 57% reduction in traffic on internal roads, equating to 35,834 fewer vehicles per day, with a modest 5% increase on boundary roads.
2. *Active Travel*: Encouraged dockless cycling with 15,500 trips starting or ending in the area monthly.
3. *Air Quality*: Observed minor changes in air quality, with no significant statistical impact.
4. *Safety Improvements*: Reduced collisions by 29% on internal roads and 21% on boundary roads.
5. *Public Feedback*: Mixed views but growing support for walking, cycling, and safety enhancements.
6. *Recommendation*: Make the trial permanent due to improvements in active travel, reduced traffic, and safety benefits.

### Bounds Green LTN
1. *Traffic Reduction*: Saw a 66% reduction in traffic on internal roads (16,076 fewer vehicles daily) with a minor 2% increase on boundary roads.
2. *Active Travel*: Increased dockless cycling by 9,000 trips monthly, though traditional cycling dipped due to weather.
3. *Air Quality*: Minimal changes, with no significant statistical variation observed.
4. *Safety Improvements*: Collisions decreased by 50% on internal roads and 17% on boundary roads.
5. *Public Feedback*: Mixed responses, with an increase in support for quieter, safer streets.
6. *Recommendation*: Support permanent implementation, highlighting gains in reduced traffic, active travel, and safety.

### Bruce Grove West Green LTN
1. *Traffic Reduction*: Achieved a 51% reduction in internal road traffic (43,316 fewer vehicles daily) with a slight 3% rise on boundary roads.
2. *Active Travel*: Cycling rose by 33%, supported by dockless bike use.
3. *Air Quality*: Slight improvement in nitrogen dioxide levels on internal and boundary roads.
4. *Safety Improvements*: Collisions reduced by 56% on internal roads and 18% on boundary roads.
5. *Public Sentiment*: Improved acceptance and satisfaction with walking, cycling, and reduced noise levels.
6. *Recommendation*: Make permanent due to substantial reductions in traffic and safety benefits.

[Report of the Director for Environment and Resident Services. To be introduced by Cabinet Member for Climate Action, Environment & Transport.
“Consider all feedback, objections and monitoring data of the trial LTNs and decide whether to make permanent the associated traffic orders.”]

Tags for Forum Posts: low traffic neighbourhoods, st anns ltn, traffic

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What purpose does this serve, Andrew? The summary 'statistics' are comical in their abuse of logic. A look at the appendices shows brazen misrepresentations being served up by the Council in terms of traffic 'reductions', 'increases', active travel, and safety. 

No change in cycling... so let's include the data from newly introduced bike hire companies.

Roads within the LTN are statistically MORE dangerous if the data for traffic reductions (-57% St Ann's) and collisions (-29%) are taken at face value.

Air quality unchanged. Despite the patently dishonest cries from the safer streets lobby that they were 'saving the children and the planet'

Their home values have increased, and they can listen to their rest is politics podcasts in a little more peace, but that's about it. As for the net value or benefit of the LTNs, well that's not measured. Nor was it ever going to be. 

I didn't write it so can't really answer your question, but one thing it did make me think about (as did the recent furore around the parking permits) is how document heavy, and often technical, this stuff is for councillors that in many cases aren't doing this as a full time job.

I felt going heavy on the bike hire stats was a bit cheeky but on the other hand cycling is cycling. Some effort could have been taken to normalise it against areas in the borough without the LTN though.

The roads are still statistically LESS dangerous in absolute terms in your example (which is what people really care about). If you go from 1,000 cars injuring 100 people to 100 cars injuring 15 people not many people are going to view that as more dangerous.

I don't understand why there has been no improvement in air quality within the LTNs, maybe any improvement of reduced car pollution is off set by wood burning fires in homes. I thought air quality was one of the big reasons to impose the LTNs, so I don't think they can be counted as successful by this measure.

My experience of trying to get a bus on West Green Road is much worse than a modest 5% increase in traffic would suggest, but maybe even this 'modest' increase has lead to big queues on West Green Road especially in the mornings and evenings.

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