Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Thames Water works in Harringay
Harringay
Thames Water will be undertaking major sewer works outside 29 to 39 Burgoyne Road N4. These works are scheduled to take place from 21 of October 2013 to 23 March 2014. Burgoyne Road will be closed from number 16 to 48 and will be made into two-way traffic road.
Thames Water will be undertaking major sewer works outside 25 to 27 Umfreville Road N4. These works are scheduled to take place from 14 October 2013 to 19 February 2014, and will involve the use of parking bay suspensions to allow for the flow of traffic..
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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It's odd that several roads have been closed recently but nobody has complained of increased traffic on other roads. Are the recently-posted concerns about unfair traffic flows exaggerated ?
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Permalink Reply by tulips on
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Lots of traffic has been diverted down Duckett Road. In particular, we're suffering from heavy lorries speeding over the speed bumps.
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Permalink Reply by Malc B on
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Sorry to hear that Justine, I know how annoying that can be - I suspect you're getting the lorries we have suffered with for years on Burgoyne diverted down Duckett. We have tried time and time again to do something about it - see e.g. http://www.harringayonline.com/forum/topics/jewsons-lorries-down-bu...
One thing that would be worth monitoring is if any of the houses near the speed bumps suffer any damage as a result of the increased traffic - we have long suspected this to be the case, but difficult to prove...
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Permalink Reply by Gordon T on
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Thames Water have done 3 or 4 letterdrops to houses in those two roads: the most recent one referred to changing the way in which the supports for the excavations are being put in, to reduce noise and vibration.
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Proves my point about exaggerated concerns about unfair traffic flows after altering ladder rungs. Only Justine has reported increased traffic, and that only after being prompted by my query.
Hampden Road was closed for a couple of days recently. Nobody from Sydney or Frobisher found it necessary to comment on the increased traffic past their front doors.
Obviously, Chicken Little does not do holistic traffic studies.
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Permalink Reply by phippsofacto on
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Cavendish Road is suffering with the HGVs that are doing much of the work on Burgoyne and Umfreville, and I have seen some fairly lenghty queues (comparitive to normal) on Duckett. I am tempted to say that there are more people driving the wrong way down Cavendish as well, but that could just be down to general muppetry.
It seems that Thames Water and the council could have done a better job of informing local people as there's also a lot of displacement from cars that normally park on Burgoyne and Umfreville, which is not a problem but would have been helpful to have known. Surely experience should tell them that the impact is felt wider than the 2 roads directly affected?
I disagree with the comment that is disproves an increase in traffic on other roads. I personally have just grown tired of highlighting these issues and seeing no real change. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, as I know Karen has tried to address some of these issues, but is needs a bigger effort from an apathetic council.
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I've noticed during this diversion of traffic that there's no doubt these lorries cause a lot of vibration when they go over the speed bumps. The lorries do not even slow down when they go over the speed bumps. The council should not be allowing lorries access down the ladder roads. If Karen can't get this dealt with by the council, then the council should remove the speed bumps.
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Permalink Reply by John McMullan on
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Sadly when the roads have been resealed and the speedbumps temporarily taken out the speed that some people deem appropriate is deadly. It's not the vibration affecting our houses that is the problem, we need to acknowledge that this is a mental health issue. The sudden boom is not something that you get used to and whilst not belittling the soldiers who did suffer shell-shock in battle, they were not just people trying to live in their houses.
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Permalink Reply by Salsa on
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Hi Karen
Thanks for this.
I am sure that the information that I initially received through the door said that this work would take 6 weeks. Is the road really going to be closed until March? If so, something more creative needs to be done about the parking situation for residents. e.g. perhaps some of the pay and display bays could be allocated to residents parking in the short term while the work is done? also maybe there could be a restriction on the use of skips and keeping other items in parking bays during this time?
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Road closure for 6 weeks, then open again though narrowed (like Umfreville currently is) till the works finish in March, is what the letter said.
It does seem a generous workspace at the moment on Burgoyne, but see how full the workspace now is on Umfreville, there's a lot of machinery to be accommodated. As for parking adjustments, over to Karen??
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Permalink Reply by Lucy Jaffe on
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From the frontline on Burgoyne Road: The deep excavations are finishing this side of Christmas and the road will be re-opened all the way down, although only half the width. They will then recommence works in the New Year between the bridge and the place where the really deep holes have been dug.
This work is to manage potential flooding from the New River. I am making enquiries on behalf of residents about additional parking permits for residents who live on the affected part of the road. I understand that residents of Umfreville have taken matters into their own hands as well and been in direct contact with Thames Water.
I'll keep you posted.
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