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Tapas Bar, Wightman Road - Application for a Veranda/Deck to go with the New French Doors

There's an application [HGY/2009/0661] to construct a deck to face onto Wightman Road adjacent to the junction with Railway Approach:

http://www.planningservices.haringey.gov.uk/portal/servlets/Applica...

Is it a good idea? Well, presumably, it's on land belonging to the restaurant - are there any rights of way around the corner? It will involve narrowing access and vehicles will no longer be able to mount the pavement there [a good thing but not for the shop]. Clearly, there'll be tables on the deck in the warm weather for the smokers and Cafe Society eating - potential for noise issues with drinking and late opening, not good if you need to sleep and there are loud goodbyes and car horns at 12:30am. Are there any pollution issues? Mainly for the inhalation of exhaust fumes I would think. Will it create an improved ambience on the corner? Possibly. Will the appearance be aesthetically pleasing? Have a look at the plans! My intuition is that I'm positive about the idea subject to very tight conditions around noise and niusance, what do you think?

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You can not fit a bicylce on the footpaths of Wightman Rd.
Well, La Vina has appealed.
Appellant: Miss Yelic Behic
Appeal Ref: APP/Y5420/A/09/2110049
Start Date: 16/10/2009 (for 6 weeks)
www.planningportal.gov.uk

I still think the best way to support this very good restaurant is to dine out there regularly, supporting an extension of hours rather than a front deck extension. But let Bristol do its worst!
It's just used as a carpark at the moment. I feel like dobbing the bloke in to Inland Revenue a-la WightmanPaul for not declaring the carparking space on his P11d. Ditto for the Queen's Head.
They refuse this one, and they let all sorts of shit pass down on Green Lanes. Where's the logic? At least this is a nice place, not some scuzzy betting shop or adult gaming centre.
I will absolutely NOt object to this, and I hope they get their permission. Ridiculous.
Calm down, Anette. I simply posted these latest details so that any regular user or neighbour of La Vina would be aware of the Appeal and forward their comments, pro or con, to the Planning Inspectorate. I guess the Bristol Inspectorate are not on HOL, so they may miss your strength of feeling unless you write it in triplicate within the next three or four weeks.
Yes it's a fairly nice place and it would be nice to keep it nice or, alternatively, make it nicer.
Thanks for revitalising this one OAE. My initial reaction was that something which supported a local business and breathed life into that corner could be a good thing and I haven't changed my mind there - with the reservation, as Paul Smith says in point 2) of the Councils refusal, that there are some tight restrictions around noise. I do, however, find the Council's first point difficult to swallow. Given the nature, width and general dilapidation of the pavement along Wightman Road, I find it a bit rich for the Council to be refusing permission on the grounds of impeding access. The street has been systematically neglected over decades by the Council, resulting in diminshed amenity access. To be consistent the Council should have refused itself permission to run the area down. In case anyone from Environment is reading this, why do the pavements towards Crouch End and Muswell Hill get repaired with slabs and block paving where the footfall is relatively low but Wightman Road gets the slabs torn up and replaced with this appalling cheap tarmac?
Hear hear!

I've just had a bite of lunch in the Hollywood Cafe, Holloway Rd (Seven Sisters jct) and am still trying to clear my ancient lungs of the blown-in smoke of four addicts at the pavement tables. Not even Holloway's normal pollution could neutralise it. Never again, I thought.

But all good things come to them that waits, courtesy of them that knows their way around Haringey's "planning" and "enforcement" via Bristol. La Vina's met-post Veranda / Deck is practically complete. So Paul, Anette, Adrian-from-the-land-of-Oz and all, soon La Vina's addictive patrons and matrons will be able to inhale, imbibe, ingest, digest and, perhaps, excrete simultaneously at front of house. No doubt, courtesy of the french doors, we shall all re-inhale the secondary benefits.

Nothing at all to prevent Kevin following suit, if he so wishes, and I'll encourage the German Shepherd to demand a similarly styled kennel at No.7.

As I suspected back in 2009, a tatty little box rather than a pavilion of Kubla Khan proportions. Call it alfresco if you must, it certainly does nothing for La Vina's neatly refurbished front. This time they seem to have taken their lead from the atrocious back-yard panel fencing around the front garden of Wightman No.9.

Shame. I liked La Vina. Not going there again if I'll have to chew other people's smoke with my food. Not a chance.

Welcome aboard, Anette, if not on deck. There will be more rejoicing on Wightman Road over one sinner who repents their November 2009 support for inhalation installations than for 99 of us who need no repentance. La Vina al Fresco (NON, or is it al HumoTurco?) has just lost about £500 per annum from me and mine, but no doubt they will survive withdrawal of my meagre custom. I mean, Cafe Lemon seems to be still in business after several years without me.

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