Harringay, Haringey - So Good they Spelt it Twice!
Street sleepers
Has this problem got out of control? Is there anything the council can do?
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Permalink Reply by John D on
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Alcohol and heroin do not " repair the body " They are simply mood-altering chemicals.
If people are sub-letting their homes to pay for heroin ( or alcohol, or cigarettes) they are unlikely to be taking it under medical supervision.
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Permalink Reply by Antoinette on
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Sub-letting their homes for any purpose is fraud.
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Permalink Reply by EMC2 on
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I'm not sure it's "out of control" but recently, and for the first time, I've noticed a few tents in among the bushes on the Parkland Walk, and what appears to be a self made large shelter on the railway embankment near the recycling centre.
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Permalink Reply by Jonathan Shalom on
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It seems out of control too me. Never seen this problem in any other area of London that I have lived in.
I guess, I am just going to have to get used to it.
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But isn't that a sad state of affairs when people living on the street is no longer a shocking sight?
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Don't demonise the homeless!
Is there anything the council can do?
Yes.
Abandon the stupid idea of demolishing council houses and build more.
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Permalink Reply by Ruth on
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It's been quite a while now since Barclays bank area on Green Lanes has been a beggars/homeless pitch. It's shared by several people who seem to take it in turns, alternating who is sleeping and begging there. I live right near there and have been observing the comings and goings. I wonder where they go where they are not there. There is the 'couple' plus another woman and a guy, at least, who use that space and also the pitch under the railway bridge. I wouldn't demonise them as individuals but something is clearly wrong when we have to just accept this as a way of life, drug and drinking habits, on the streets etc. I suppose they used to take place inside peoples homes, when they had one.
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Yes, I have seen the 1 at barclays and the other under the bridge. But on Saturday I saw people in doorways on both sides of the green lanes. I then also saw the couple, just on the pavement, where people had to walk around them.
Also during the day, there are several people begging on green lanes. I only moved to Harringay in Feb last year, and none of this was evident when researching the area, and has come up over the last 18 months or so.
I just do not want to accept this!
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What do you suggest doing about it?
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that is why i raised this, to find out what can be done
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Permalink Reply by Betty Careless on
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Harringey has very few homelessness services compared to neighboring boroughs - for instance the only Day Centre provision is North London action for the Homeless who only open two days a week. We have also seen vicious cuts to the borough's drug and alcohol support services. I guess one proactive thing people could do would be to lobby the council and/or to help fundraise for services like NLAH to enable them to help more people. The council's Rough Sleepers Strategy only goes up to 2012 so maybe a bit of prompting may help them focus on renewing it
As much as the general public don't like to see people sleeping out or using on the streets it takes a brave Councillor (and particularity clear sighted) to argue for funding for drug services when children's services etc. that the vocal and voting electorate use and support, are being cut. Once people are in a position where they are addicted and chaotic it is very easy to 'other' them, and get to a position where homeless people are not like 'us' and are undeserving of our help.
Sadly this problem isn't unique to Haringey - we've seen a 63% increase in rough sleeping since 2012/13 whilst the increase across the whole of London is 80%. Annual figures can be found on CHAIN
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I agree with you on a lot of what you have said here but you are wrong about provision for homeless people in Haringey. There is several projects for rough sleepers in Haringey. I will put up a list later.
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